the AAZ engine is not a tdi it has a mechanical pump so it is just a TD so that means no wiring

the mk3 TDI engine is the 1z which can also be fittted but requires some wiring

edit: just noticed your in louth what part you in ?

 

im from cooley, about 5 minutes away from carlingford. i read ur project on here, great job on the car.

power wise and diesel wise the tdi would be better would it. how hard or complicated is the wiring for the tdi

 

Im putting a TD into my 1.3 Ryder and it doesnt seem that difficult at all. And there very easy to get decent power from as well

 

What year is your car?

If it's a 90 spec(CE2)(hazzard light switch on the steering) then the wiring is very straight forward for a 1Z(TDi)

The AAZ is easier in all mk2's but wont make the same power as the TDi.

If it was me, i'd convert the car loom to 90 spec(CE2) and put in the 1Z

 

in my opinion the 1,6 and 1.9 td engins were the best made be vw there bullet proof and they drop straight in no hassel no fuss little or no wiring the 1z tid engins are only ok engins in my opinion and can be fiddly to get right in a mk2 as most common place to find one of thies is in an audi 80 91-95 to be honest think there a wast of space of an engin as there slow to rev hard to make them creat gud horsepower and have a cronic torque range

the 1.6 td or gtd is the best engin in a mk2 you can get the best economy torque range and hp to suit a mk2 with thies engins and iff youe any way gud with fiddiling with engins and you know the basic principals of how an engin works you can easily make a gud 1.6 td as quick as an 8v gti

mine is a 1.6 td jetta engin is us spec and came with a bigger turbo (garret t3) and with samll mods i was keeping up with my mate 110bhp bora there a grate engin and a gud one will give you years of reliable fun

 

QUOTE (jetta boy @ Jun 24 2011, 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>in my opinion the 1,6 and 1.9 td engins were the best made be vw there bullet proof and they drop straight in no hassel no fuss little or no wiring the 1z tid engins are only ok engins in my opinion and can be fiddly to get right in a mk2 as most common place to find one of thies is in an audi 80 91-95 to be honest think there a wast of space of an engin as there slow to rev hard to make them creat gud horsepower and have a cronic torque range

the 1.6 td or gtd is the best engin in a mk2 you can get the best economy torque range and hp to suit a mk2 with thies engins and iff youe any way gud with fiddiling with engins and you know the basic principals of how an engin works you can easily make a gud 1.6 td as quick as an 8v gti

mine is a 1.6 td jetta engin is us spec and came with a bigger turbo (garret t3) and with samll mods i was keeping up with my mate 110bhp bora there a grate engin and a gud one will give you years of reliable fun

sorry to be talking off topic but just wondering where your pullig your information on 1z engines being slow to rev and having " a bad torque range" from????
also the bit about them being hard to create good horsepower??
they have way more torque than an aaz, 150nm i think, and they really couldnt be any easier to get up to "good Horsepower"?? decat,injectors and a remap and this almost standard caddy makes 136bhp?????http://vagdrivers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=66195 dont think any aaz makes that kinda power with a standard turbo????

 

QUOTE (ulick @ Jun 24 2011, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>sorry to be talking off topic but just wondering where your pullig your information on 1z engines being slow to rev and having " a bad torque range" from????
also the bit about them being hard to create good horsepower??
they have way more torque than an aaz, 150nm i think, and they really couldnt be any easier to get up to "good Horsepower"?? decat,injectors and a remap and this almost standard caddy makes 136bhp?????http://vagdrivers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=66195 dont think any aaz makes that kinda power with a standard turbo????

I always thought the 1Z was less desireable due to the wiring involved but was an all round better engine. They make more power from the factory than the AAZ and witha simple map you can get 110bhp. Then with simple mods you are entering the 130+ bhp figures.

I'm fitting a 1Z to one of my cars at the min and it's an 87. i've changed the car loom to a combo of mk3 golf and mk2 golf.

You can use the complete engine loom from a mk3, lighting loom and all and just change the plugs on the ends so you can plug it into your mk2 lights and indicators etc...

I'll be starting a build thread in a week or so.

 

QUOTE in my opinion the 1,6 and 1.9 td engins were the best made be vw there bullet proof and they drop straight in no hassel no fuss little or no wiring the 1z tid engins are only ok engins in my opinion and can be fiddly to get right in a mk2 as most common place to find one of thies is in an audi 80 91-95 to be honest think there a wast of space of an engin as there slow to rev hard to make them creat gud horsepower and have a cronic torque range

the 1.6 td or gtd is the best engin in a mk2 you can get the best economy torque range and hp to suit a mk2 with thies engins and iff youe any way gud with fiddiling with engins and you know the basic principals of how an engin works you can easily make a gud 1.6 td as quick as an 8v gti

mine is a 1.6 td jetta engin is us spec and came with a bigger turbo (garret t3) and with samll mods i was keeping up with my mate 110bhp bora there a grate engin and a gud one will give you years of reliable fun

we are all entitled to our opinions, but I cant agree with all that; the 1.6TD/GTD engine was/is a very revy engine; a shorter crank than later diesels as the bottom end is based on the petrol 1.6; vw didnt make a 'specifically' for diesel designed engine til the AAZ; and that was a 'transitional engine' to the later TDis.
The 1.6TD can suffer from headgasket trouble, and cracks between the valves on the head, the AAZ 1.9TD's bottom end is 'rather weak' -especially the crank nose, in comparsion to the near bulletproof 1Z -theres a ad on here for an AAZ for sale with a bent crankp; the pumps fitted to AAZ were tiny and many lacked a proper LDA...
In terms of 'drop her in, connect up the glowplug live, and fuel cut off soleniod' 'handiness', the AAZ and 1.6TD are 'the handiest' -if your not going for 'big power' from the engine they can be reliable and durable when looked after; they are just not as strong as the 1Z...

 

QUOTE (ulick @ Jun 24 2011, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>sorry to be talking off topic but just wondering where your pullig your information on 1z engines being slow to rev and having " a bad torque range" from????
also the bit about them being hard to create good horsepower??
they have way more torque than an aaz, 150nm i think, and they really couldnt be any easier to get up to "good Horsepower"?? decat,injectors and a remap and this almost standard caddy makes 136bhp?????http://vagdrivers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=66195 dont think any aaz makes that kinda power with a standard turbo????

injectors cost money

remap costs money and can easily go rong

the aaz set up rite can be made to get very near that sort of power with next to no cost in comparison to the 1z

i have had 5 z1 tdi and while i like them as a workhorse of an engin as they are reliable there just not the engin i would choose to put in a mk2 in my opinion too much work and not enough gane

 

QUOTE (jetta boy @ Jun 24 2011, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>injectors cost money

remap costs money and can easily go rong

the aaz set up rite can be made to get very near that sort of power with next to no cost in comparison to the 1z

i have had 5 z1 tdi and while i like them as a workhorse of an engin as they are reliable there just not the engin i would choose to put in a mk2 in my opinion too much work and not enough gane

cant argue with that!!you seem to have way more experience with them than me but from just driving mk3's with both in them i found an absolutely huge difference!!

 

QUOTE (ulick @ Jun 24 2011, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>cant argue with that!!you seem to have way more experience with them than me but from just driving mk3's with both in them i found an absolutely huge difference!!

total agree in a mk3 you need you need the extra torque and as a stadard unmodified engin the z1 is alot more powerful but in a mk2 youe better off with a 1.6 td they just suit them better imo and are realy fun to drive

 

you sayin a 1z mk2 wouldnt be fun ??

 

QUOTE (jetta boy @ Jun 24 2011, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>total agree in a mk3 you need you need the extra torque and as a stadard unmodified engin the z1 is alot more powerful but in a mk2 youe better off with a 1.6 td they just suit them better imo and are realy fun to drive

is it not very hard to get a 1.6 td.

 

so if i went wit the 1Z engine, how hard is to wire.

 

i tried gettin pics up, taken to long. i,ll try again moro.

 

check out jetta's silver mk2 jetta coupe build tread on here; afaik he used most of the loom fot the 1z, and 'adapted' it to the mk2...

 

i cant get pics uploaded. it keeps sayin i havn selected anytin but i hav

 

QUOTE (Peter Murphy @ Jun 25 2011, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i cant get pics uploaded. it keeps sayin i havn selected anytin but i hav

use photobucket its handier than attatching pics

 

Started a bit of work. Cleaned back wha i thought was surface rust but clearly not. Replaced the steel water pipe to get the car running until i get an engine. And now the radiator is completly shot wit about 5 holes in it.

 

got a mk3 golf estate tdi tonight for its engine. good engine in it, wit great pull in all the gears wit no crunchin, a nice dry and solid engine.
it actually would be a pity to break the estate. its on northern plates and the sills and doors a prity rusted.

 

Holy crap this is my old mk2. Small world lol.

Cant wait to see the progress on this as Im considering buying another mk2 and doing the same conversion.

 

have the two cars sittin ready to be worked on but im not sure wha to do. the mk2 needs a good deal of work and then it has to be vrt,d. and i,m tinkin is it worth it. i was eyin up a mk1 caddy southern reg. would it be hard to get 1.9tdi into the caddy.

 

that mnk2 certainly looks very rusty, judging by the filler cap area.

in reply to your q re; mk1 caddy - a tdi can be fitted; but to use the TDis cable change box, you will need to source late cabby GTi or scirocco mk2 (late) shafts, as they have 100mm inner CVs.
You will also need to make/weld up a gearbox mounts if you intend on using the cable change box; an alternative is to find n fit a mk2 Golf 020 style rod change box; use the caddys present 90mm inner cv 'shafts, and a mk1 golf Gti 5 spped gearbox mount...

 

gonna follow this one

looks like its gonna be quite an interesting read!!
hhmmm love the colour. keeping it??

 

QUOTE (NeelieS14 @ Jul 30 2011, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>gonna follow this one

looks like its gonna be quite an interesting read!!
hhmmm love the colour. keeping it??

Not sure about keepin it. i dont mind spendin the money on the car to get it right, i love the colour thats why i got it. its the thoughts of spendin €720 to vrt the car. i could just buy a clean southern reg car for about a grand. money is tight so i hav to be careful.