that's fantastic. I live beside the n4 and never hear the traffic, except when some tosser does a burn out and roars off with a big exhaust

 

Hopefully this will stop the feckin ejits racing up and down my road in clapped out civics

 

ye but Ill get in trouble for putting a miltek exhaust on my rado vr or buying a peugeout rallye with a pugsport system

 

if they want to spend some money let them sort out the roads! its gone past a joke now here in the west.

 

Flip, I spink my tinted windys are over the limit. I can understand the whole wavin exhaust situation but whats the problem with tinted windows??

 

QUOTE (Dev @ Aug 21 2009, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Flip, I spink my tinted windys are over the limit. I can understand the whole wavin exhaust situation but whats the problem with tinted windows??

Cops back home are bastards about tinted windows the reason is they can't see inside the car especially at night so if they pull you over they are in more danger of getting shot etc. Sometime you can avoid them ticketing and stripping your tint off if you roll your windows all the way down when they pull you over. As for the exhaust rules, as long as they have a legal decibel limit and stick to it, I agree with it, if they use the testing equipment. Unfortunately they don't always do this and I know people who have gotten tickets for a stock exhaust...it seems fair that they give you a warning and a chance to fix it....here's a real big question though, will motorcycles be affected? Cops in the U.S. seem to completely ignore the asshats who ride around on straight piped Harleys that are loud enough to make your ears bleed.

 

QUOTE (turbosnow @ Aug 21 2009, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Cops back home are bastards about tinted windows the reason is they can't see inside the car especially at night so if they pull you over they are in more danger of getting shot etc.

ya better expand on the "etc" bit because I've never heard such a ridiculous excuse... sure they'd never deliver a summons if that was the case... you never know if there's a shotgun behind that front door!!!

 

QUOTE (turbosnow @ Aug 21 2009, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>will motorcycles be affected? Cops in the U.S. seem to completely ignore the asshats who ride around on straight piped Harleys that are loud enough to make your ears bleed.

I totally agree with what you are saying there about massey davidsons or harley ferguson's

I believe they are introducing a nct style test for Bikes well it was in talks for the last few years anyway

I must hold off on buying a Varadero 1000cc v twin for a little while longer

 

QUOTE (turbosnow @ Aug 21 2009, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Cops back home are bastards about tinted windows the reason is they can't see inside the car especially at night so if they pull you over they are in more danger of getting shot etc. Sometime you can avoid them ticketing and stripping your tint off if you roll your windows all the way down when they pull you over. As for the exhaust rules, as long as they have a legal decibel limit and stick to it, I agree with it, if they use the testing equipment. Unfortunately they don't always do this and I know people who have gotten tickets for a stock exhaust...it seems fair that they give you a warning and a chance to fix it....here's a real big question though, will motorcycles be affected? Cops in the U.S. seem to completely ignore the asshats who ride around on straight piped Harleys that are loud enough to make your ears bleed.

Oh, well thats fair enough. I have a habit of rolling the windows all the way down whenever i pulled up anyways. Yeah i agree about the two wheelers, but there not as common as acne faced micheal schumakers in there fiestas/civics. I think they should enforce the decibal limit but only during certain hours, say 23.30-6.00.

 

QUOTE (hypnotoad @ Aug 21 2009, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hopefully this will stop the feckin ejits racing up and down my road in clapped out civics

Second that exact same in the estate I live in, idiots flying up and down the main road with that fucking droning noise which goes though the whole house.

 

QUOTE (green-blood @ Aug 21 2009, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ya better expand on the "etc" bit because I've never heard such a ridiculous excuse... sure they'd never deliver a summons if that was the case... you never know if there's a shotgun behind that front door!!!
OK, they don't know if you have a can of mace...a rabid dog, a sexy girlfriend, a knife, are reaching for your machete, stashing your drugs, beating your sexy girlfriend, flogging the dolphin, or having sex with your rabid dog.

Basically a car with really dark tint is a rolling mystery and increases the danger to police when they pull you over and let's be frank...do you really need tinted windows here? The blazing sunlight is unlikely to burn you.

 

i understand the idea of front two windows and windscreen but the rear 3 shouldnt have any limit, sure if you have a van you cant see shit anyway.
as for the exhausts, i cant imagine a factory option would get you convicted in court if you could proove it was a factory option etc.

 

QUOTE (turbosnow @ Aug 21 2009, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>OK, they don't know if you have a can of mace...a rabid dog, a sexy girlfriend, a knife, are reaching for your machete, stashing your drugs, beating your sexy girlfriend, flogging the dolphin, or having sex with your rabid dog.

Basically a car with really dark tint is a rolling mystery and increases the danger to police when they pull you over and let's be frank...do you really need tinted windows here? The blazing sunlight is unlikely to burn you.

Maybe its because you cant see anything out of the windows. I bought a coralla a few years back with tinted windows used to have the roll the things down to see out at junctions if it was anything other than a bright clear day.

 

The tint's I have are semi dark and I can see out perfectly through them, they are good aswell as they are better for the eyes.

 

QUOTE (VinnyTheGolfMan @ Aug 22 2009, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The tint's I have are semi dark and I can see out perfectly through them, they are good aswell as they are better for the eyes.

and they may well pass then.
its not all tinta that are getting banned.

 

QUOTE Irish law states that the natural light/tint ratio in car windows must be at least 75/25 percent in windscreens and 70/30 percent in passenger windows.

I think you can go darker on the rear windows?

What I would like to know is, are they going to use a light metre? How they going to gauge it if not?

I have been in cars that it was nearly impossible to see out the side windows, rolling them down just to see out (in the daylight)

 

Another reason that I would welcome a restriction on tints (on front windows at least) is that you can't predict the driver's intentions, for example in the scenario where you are driving on a main road and a car is preparing to pull out of a side road just ahead of you, it's reassuring to see if he/she is looking in your direction. If they have dark tints, you have no clue of what they're going to do.

Tom.

 

they've been saying the same thing for years.

 

QUOTE (turbosnow @ Aug 21 2009, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>let's be frank...do you really need tinted windows here? The blazing sunlight is unlikely to burn you.

Seconded, tinted windows have to be one of the most pointless mods in a country like Ireland. Although they do help in that I dont get a chance to see the minging 15 year old knacker in the passenger seat, so I suppose theyre better for my eyes.

 

QUOTE (babyface @ Aug 22 2009, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think you can go darker on the rear windows?

What I would like to know is, are they going to use a light metre? How they going to gauge it if not?

I have been in cars that it was nearly impossible to see out the side windows, rolling them down just to see out (in the daylight)

read the first post again dude

 

QUOTE (Alan B. @ Aug 22 2009, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>read the first post again dude

LOL and I posted it...

But will all cars carry one or will they have specificaly trained guards that would do it, will it be like you have to turn up at a certain station to get it tested or will they call out the trained guard? I doubt every patrol car would be equiped with one, would they?

Wouldn't it be better and cheaper to do it during the NCT test?

 

it would but then you'd just have people with tints after the nct is passed.

it depends what equipment they get, if its a small device, it could be given to each station and it would be brought out in the cars.
i'd say every guard would be trained in it if that is the case,

or it could be a machine at the station that would mean bringing the car back there.
(theres already similir laws that give powers for cars to be brought places like trucks and weigh bridges for example)
if its a big machine i'd say one station in 3 might have one, the main station in the district for example

in that case it would probably be some guards that are trained not all.
it all depends on what piece of equipment is got and how the testing is done with that bit of kit.

 

where do they stand on things like Evo V,VI, ... with factory fitted exhausts? they are loud, but not aftermarket?

oh, and are limo's tints illegal then?

 

The light transmission meters are small and portable, tons of cops in the U.S. carry them around. So are the decibel meters for the exhausts.

 

About measuring the db level of an exhaust.

The guards could have the most accurate meter in the world but it will show different readings dependent on where the level is measured. To do this correctly they would have to have a standardised location and a set distance from the car/exhaust where the level is measured.

You can imagine testing a car in a narrow lane between buildings, this is going to sound much louder then a level measured in the open.

I can see many a court case being thrown out based on this.