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Clean, yes, but I wouldnt have put Gasburners on for wheels, Bernies Ghia is sweet but its 90s custom stylee, today folks are more into that oldskool callook Its all just a personal thing really! There are loadsa dubs out there I love, that Split bug dont have enuf attitude to be best it the world!
Newburys Ghia, dont really call it '90s style. It was pretty unique though had its imitators, none as good.
It brought street rod influences & attention to detail & custom body mods to aircoolers, it almost had a concept car appearance... ok it had some billet alum. I never liked the stuff...
Currently a lot of bugs still have restocal look albeit with narrowed front beams & cartoonlike bignlittle rubber
rake. I like it but samey when u put a few together....... Similarly ratlookers & hoodride veedubs
Cars like Newburys can be timelessly goodlooking unlike some fadfollowers
Pity more people dont think outside the box ie build custom cars !!
It brought street rod influences & attention to detail & custom body mods to aircoolers, it almost had a concept car appearance... ok it had some billet alum. I never liked the stuff...
Currently a lot of bugs still have restocal look albeit with narrowed front beams & cartoonlike bignlittle rubber
rake. I like it but samey when u put a few together....... Similarly ratlookers & hoodride veedubs
Cars like Newburys can be timelessly goodlooking unlike some fadfollowers
Pity more people dont think outside the box ie build custom cars !!
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Airnwater, I agree with you, but if Bernie built his Ghia in the late 90's early 00's it would have more carbonfibre and the billet wouldnt be there, same if he built it today I'd say the wheels and Tyre combo would also be different, good cars can be timeless but alot of the best sometimes move forward and change as trends and styles do!
I love Hoods/ rats and retro race stuff, resto cals and em all, Im in the market for a Bug at the mo, and the look will depend on the base car! It will be low, with narrowed beam but how low depends on the base car and the look and engine I choose!
Bernies car came from an era when folk customised cars, todays its retro, wots next? Its hard to call, and even more hard to be original these days!
Why is the oldskool look so popular today, is it to preserve bugs, is it easier to do than targa tops and suicide doors, smooth panels?
Good volks rods take alot of work and as the use the retro styles more the 90's hodrod vw's , i think they are much better, 90's rod vdubs just removed the wings and looked crap!
Dr Gonzo is a good car, simple and effective,
These days you cant see the bugs for the buses!!!!
I love Hoods/ rats and retro race stuff, resto cals and em all, Im in the market for a Bug at the mo, and the look will depend on the base car! It will be low, with narrowed beam but how low depends on the base car and the look and engine I choose!
Bernies car came from an era when folk customised cars, todays its retro, wots next? Its hard to call, and even more hard to be original these days!
Why is the oldskool look so popular today, is it to preserve bugs, is it easier to do than targa tops and suicide doors, smooth panels?
Good volks rods take alot of work and as the use the retro styles more the 90's hodrod vw's , i think they are much better, 90's rod vdubs just removed the wings and looked crap!
Dr Gonzo is a good car, simple and effective,
These days you cant see the bugs for the buses!!!!
Take point on c'fibre (dont like the stuff myself) ,etc. but Bernies car is a classic , a landmark (in VW scene) now & in the future regardless.
A Classic should be something new or something done better than before, hence they will be remembered when fadfollowers are forgotten..
Spoke to Newbury years ago, tho its his car , Paintbox deserve much credit for its design & execution.
-Targa tops & suicide doors are labour intensive gimmicks , good for show points but dont improve Bugs look..
- Re Dr gonzo..saw it in the flesh NSRA Supernats couple years ago, nice chop ,But naff colour, & Cragar S/S rims dont work, u never see
them on hotrods, maybe ok on early '60's Yank lowriders.....
Hotrod bugs (with early ford axle) done much better by SoCallook (for Fred Hidago & Martin Smith) in usa year before.
Proportions, stance,extended wheelbase, '30's Ford style wires wearing bignlittle crossplies, lights, spot on.
Basically simple '40's hotrod styling cues...
First of the best custom cars prob. 30s coachbuilders eg Bohman & Schwartz on Duesenbergs, Figoni et Falaschi on Talbot Lagos, Delahayes,etc
later 40s & 50s eg Valley Custom chopped/sectioned/smoothed 30s/40s Fords,Mercs..
later Barris built 1st chopped '49 merc followed by Hirohata '51 Merc, best ever
Pebble Beach even has classes for these Fords,Mercs,etc....
50's Concept cars from US big 3 (Ford,Chrysler,GM) are mostly brilliantly overdone, mobile works of art....& of course late 50's yanks "custom" from the factory!!
Cadzilla (zztop) in the 80's , beautiful...
Nowadays Chip Foose has great sense of style & can build em too...... I bet Mercedes checked out customs from the past when building CLS..
Its a bit like art masterpieces, appreciated whenever they're built. end of rant
A Classic should be something new or something done better than before, hence they will be remembered when fadfollowers are forgotten..
Spoke to Newbury years ago, tho its his car , Paintbox deserve much credit for its design & execution.
-Targa tops & suicide doors are labour intensive gimmicks , good for show points but dont improve Bugs look..
- Re Dr gonzo..saw it in the flesh NSRA Supernats couple years ago, nice chop ,But naff colour, & Cragar S/S rims dont work, u never see
them on hotrods, maybe ok on early '60's Yank lowriders.....
Hotrod bugs (with early ford axle) done much better by SoCallook (for Fred Hidago & Martin Smith) in usa year before.
Proportions, stance,extended wheelbase, '30's Ford style wires wearing bignlittle crossplies, lights, spot on.
Basically simple '40's hotrod styling cues...
First of the best custom cars prob. 30s coachbuilders eg Bohman & Schwartz on Duesenbergs, Figoni et Falaschi on Talbot Lagos, Delahayes,etc
later 40s & 50s eg Valley Custom chopped/sectioned/smoothed 30s/40s Fords,Mercs..
later Barris built 1st chopped '49 merc followed by Hirohata '51 Merc, best ever
Pebble Beach even has classes for these Fords,Mercs,etc....
50's Concept cars from US big 3 (Ford,Chrysler,GM) are mostly brilliantly overdone, mobile works of art....& of course late 50's yanks "custom" from the factory!!
Cadzilla (zztop) in the 80's , beautiful...
Nowadays Chip Foose has great sense of style & can build em too...... I bet Mercedes checked out customs from the past when building CLS..
Its a bit like art masterpieces, appreciated whenever they're built. end of rant
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Dang that boi knows his sheeet!
Bernies Ghia is sweet as is every interior he's ever done. Same with Emery and paintbox, even back when he did the MK1 golf. Melliard striping etc (love his missuses bus!) top notch, jo an joe gallaghers razors etc, put the thing Id dont like about them is at the mo in the UK if you have the dollah, they are the simple recipie for a show winning feature car, along with a lil bit of Jon Rathbone or someone similar for the metal work!
Love the SoCallook stuff, proper show cars compared to some so called volksrods!
foose is cool but the way I see it with all these US shows is there's loads like him, just we never get the opertunity, the money or have access to all the equipment as the Yanks!
Look at the Biker Build off's, so easy for them all to lay their hands on bits and build wicked rides, where would you even start here?
Billy Lanes the man for me in the Bike scene, lot more DIY Hands on than the rest, although than Young bloke how does Rods and bikes did a sweet retro bike with wood/ Wicker seat!
Have you seen Walt's 'Flat4ord' over on www.volksrods.com I know it looks like a pick up. its meant to but its cool enuf for a bug project!
The Timeless classic is a hard call, you can built a car that can look so good for it moment in time but can look so out of date for ever more! Thats why simple is always best and Bauhaus rules apply, 'Form follows function'
Thats why Italians win awards for car of the year etc when the launch a new car and Germans never do, come back 10 years later and what looks better, Italian or german, MK2 Golf and E30 Bmw compared to most other cars of that era, the Germans still look up to date with more modern rubber, / wheels!
For me, the stance of a car makes it or brakes it, ride hight combined with choice of wheels should be the first thing to be altered by anyone wanting to modify/ customise their ride!
Bernies Ghia is sweet as is every interior he's ever done. Same with Emery and paintbox, even back when he did the MK1 golf. Melliard striping etc (love his missuses bus!) top notch, jo an joe gallaghers razors etc, put the thing Id dont like about them is at the mo in the UK if you have the dollah, they are the simple recipie for a show winning feature car, along with a lil bit of Jon Rathbone or someone similar for the metal work!
Love the SoCallook stuff, proper show cars compared to some so called volksrods!
foose is cool but the way I see it with all these US shows is there's loads like him, just we never get the opertunity, the money or have access to all the equipment as the Yanks!
Look at the Biker Build off's, so easy for them all to lay their hands on bits and build wicked rides, where would you even start here?
Billy Lanes the man for me in the Bike scene, lot more DIY Hands on than the rest, although than Young bloke how does Rods and bikes did a sweet retro bike with wood/ Wicker seat!
Have you seen Walt's 'Flat4ord' over on www.volksrods.com I know it looks like a pick up. its meant to but its cool enuf for a bug project!
The Timeless classic is a hard call, you can built a car that can look so good for it moment in time but can look so out of date for ever more! Thats why simple is always best and Bauhaus rules apply, 'Form follows function'
Thats why Italians win awards for car of the year etc when the launch a new car and Germans never do, come back 10 years later and what looks better, Italian or german, MK2 Golf and E30 Bmw compared to most other cars of that era, the Germans still look up to date with more modern rubber, / wheels!
For me, the stance of a car makes it or brakes it, ride hight combined with choice of wheels should be the first thing to be altered by anyone wanting to modify/ customise their ride!
QUOTE (Dirty1 @ Mar 25 2006, 04:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thats why Italians win awards for car of the year etc when the launch a new car and Germans never do, come back 10 years later and what looks better, Italian or german, MK2 Golf and E30 Bmw compared to most other cars of that era, the Germans still look up to date with more modern rubber, / wheels!
Wise words indeed. I've never looked at cars from that perspective but, now you've the thing in my head, you're spot on.
Wise words indeed. I've never looked at cars from that perspective but, now you've the thing in my head, you're spot on.
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Well I've a degree in that shit!! (Car design) so I'd better have some sortov an opinion on the subject!
Maybe that too is the reason when new Golfs come out and at first I dont like em, then I see the first one on decent rims, just the way the designers always draw em an I think Errrmmm??? Maybe I do like it! Now I like MK5s, wonder how long it will be before I like new passats??
Maybe that too is the reason when new Golfs come out and at first I dont like em, then I see the first one on decent rims, just the way the designers always draw em an I think Errrmmm??? Maybe I do like it! Now I like MK5s, wonder how long it will be before I like new passats??
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You wont find Transport Design in too many places/Uni's
Points? You need art, and a portfolio full of car drawings, you gotta be a car freak..............
Basically there used to be a course in geneva somewhere, dunno if its still there, there's a place in Tokyo and then Coventry university where I studied and Design Centre, Pasadena in the US. Oh and you can do a Masters in the RCA London if you the doggs bollix and get sponsered buy Ford or sumone!
Huddersfield isnt on the same level as Coventry, their course on started when I was finishing at Cov in 99'
Becareful with the type of course, Coventry is a Arts based course where styling is the main subject where as some 'design' courses are engineering based! depends on what you want to do!
As far as Design jobs, they are rare as rust free Splitties! Think about it, name all the car brands in the world, some of whom own other brands, all only have a Styling team that you can count on you hands and feet!
I have many mates from Uni in the Industry, My old house mate is head of design at TVR (if hes not, then he's next in line) one mate works for Rolls, another Opel, then theres some at VW, Merc, Holden, Landrover etc. Other in my class ended up doing other design jobs outside the car industry, like me, I'm freelancing to a local company now but spent a year freelancing to Lego toys in denmark. One mate used to design bags for Puma and now designs bags for Animal clothing, another designs trainers for Reebok! Many end up in small consultancies!
I started out studying at Carlow RTC, in Industrial design, Sligo have a course in this which I think is where you live, well next county! Also NCAD and limerick have Industrial design courses!
Getting on as a designer takes a shit load of work and self promotion, I spend too long riding dirt bikes and playing with scrap - dont think the moneys great either, car designers arnt big earners, not like fashion designers etc!
BY THE WAY, WELCOME TO THE FORUM and how did you get into Dubs and Hoodz at your age?
Points? You need art, and a portfolio full of car drawings, you gotta be a car freak..............
Basically there used to be a course in geneva somewhere, dunno if its still there, there's a place in Tokyo and then Coventry university where I studied and Design Centre, Pasadena in the US. Oh and you can do a Masters in the RCA London if you the doggs bollix and get sponsered buy Ford or sumone!
Huddersfield isnt on the same level as Coventry, their course on started when I was finishing at Cov in 99'
Becareful with the type of course, Coventry is a Arts based course where styling is the main subject where as some 'design' courses are engineering based! depends on what you want to do!
As far as Design jobs, they are rare as rust free Splitties! Think about it, name all the car brands in the world, some of whom own other brands, all only have a Styling team that you can count on you hands and feet!
I have many mates from Uni in the Industry, My old house mate is head of design at TVR (if hes not, then he's next in line) one mate works for Rolls, another Opel, then theres some at VW, Merc, Holden, Landrover etc. Other in my class ended up doing other design jobs outside the car industry, like me, I'm freelancing to a local company now but spent a year freelancing to Lego toys in denmark. One mate used to design bags for Puma and now designs bags for Animal clothing, another designs trainers for Reebok! Many end up in small consultancies!
I started out studying at Carlow RTC, in Industrial design, Sligo have a course in this which I think is where you live, well next county! Also NCAD and limerick have Industrial design courses!
Getting on as a designer takes a shit load of work and self promotion, I spend too long riding dirt bikes and playing with scrap - dont think the moneys great either, car designers arnt big earners, not like fashion designers etc!
BY THE WAY, WELCOME TO THE FORUM and how did you get into Dubs and Hoodz at your age?
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Ass licker!
Here's a sketch I did in Uni of a bike and a few dtails in the course for ya Eirejetta
http://www.cwn.org.uk/education/coventry-u...design-show.htm
Here's a sketch I did in Uni of a bike and a few dtails in the course for ya Eirejetta
http://www.cwn.org.uk/education/coventry-u...design-show.htm
thanx for the info. well i got into dubs wen i was 14 and my dad was going selling his vento but i persuaded him to give it to me. i spent nearly every evevning finding info and what parts could be bought for it on the internet. then one day when i was in galway i picked up a magazine while looking around easons, Performance VW.they have a section where they look at different websites and hoodride was one. i went on the web that night and basically im hooked on it now!!!!
well im constatly sketching cars there are scraps of paper all around my room with some sort of vehicle drawn on them!!!
i'll post up some of my drawings soon and see what you think
well im constatly sketching cars there are scraps of paper all around my room with some sort of vehicle drawn on them!!!
i'll post up some of my drawings soon and see what you think
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