http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Go...90997616/advert

This as well, "Beware of cheap copies of this car"

 

Nice reg on the 1st 1

 

White one is nice if not overpriced - reg is sweet

- EDIT - just red the fll spec - hard to know what do other people reckon?

Second one is a cheap copy all ready

 

Would people really pay that much for a Golf when a Phaeton is a couple of grand more?

 

Very nice!

 

I would buy this instead and save 16,500 euro's in the process.......

http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?prod...90325&cat=2

QUOTE Thinking about selling my beloved so im going to test the waters see what interest i have but if i dont il gladly keep it. i wll take p/x and money, but prefer cash sale obviously
Its a serious car so please no boy racers who just want test drive!! its running 330/333 at wheels, serious power!

Evo 7 Rs 60,000 kms
fully serviced by Cw performance well looked after
car is in perfect condition and no expense has been spared.

Spec:

Hks dump valve
Hks air filter
Hks full exhaust system inc de cat
Hks boost controller
running 1.5 bar mapped by A.i Autosport
Ecutek done on ecu also
Lowered 40 mm
Carbon mirrors
Carbon vortex gen ( genuine)
Carbon exhaust shield
Rota torque 17" alloys with new tyres
Evo 8 actuator
Ebc front and rear pads
Grooved disks
Walbro fuel pump
Full recaro interior
usual rs extras no elec windows/abs/ayc. Rs diff tho
hornet alarm and had to get full remote central locking also
have standard mirrors and springs, cat at home.

am only thinking about selling but if i get a good offer i wont turn it down

I'm looking for €16,500 which is a bargain over here but im willing to p/x for cash and car.

Thanks for looking

this is an old pic and car has since been lowered
with alot more carbon added

Anyone who knows their evos knows how rare the RS actually are. this price is un-beatable and if this was normal circumstances it would be €20,000 and with no budging.

 

is that first one an edition 30?? looks really like one... even the wheels??

 

QUOTE (martin69 @ Jan 21 2009, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>is that first one an edition 30?? looks really like one... even the wheels??

Nope, its standard GTI that has been colour-coded. ED30 actually has a subtly different front and rear spoilers, and it has other bits and bobs, such as red trim on seats, darkened rear lenses, etc.

It Looks well though.

 

Nice Golf with excellent spec and would probably be bought for €0k or less

 

QUOTE (JoeGTI5 @ Jan 21 2009, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Nope, its standard GTI that has been colour-coded. ED30 actually has a subtly different front and rear spoilers, and it has other bits and bobs, such as red trim on seats, darkened rear lenses, etc.

It Looks well though.

note to self... if im ever buying an edition 30, bring JoeGTI5 with me...

 

QUOTE (babyface @ Jan 21 2009, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I would buy this instead and save 16,500 euro's in the process.......

You wouldn't be long eating into that saved money gary with tyres and servicing every 3 or 4k,but of course your front door would probably be kicked in for the keys long before that,and every garda check point you stop at would take about 20 minutes of your journey with questions and getting the car "checked out".this is a vag site we like things a little more understated.

Dont get me wrong the EVO 7 is a fine car but if i had 20 odd grand to spend on a 01 perfromance car to be used as a daily driver i wouldn't buy one.

Also performance aside there is no comparison between an 08 GTI and a 01 evo.like buying an 08 GTi in a few years time there is a more than 50/50 chance that its spend most of its ife being ragged,and we all know how amazing it its that the japs get such power from a 2.0L unit but it doesnt come without a price,the are a seriously high strung engine.

 

I'd rather chop my nuts off than buy an Evo !

 

QUOTE (Shane @ Jan 21 2009, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You wouldn't be long eating into that saved money gary with tyres and servicing every 3 or 4k,but of course your front door would probably be kicked in for the keys long before that,and every garda check point you stop at would take about 20 minutes of your journey with questions and getting the car "checked out".this is a vag site we like things a little more understated.

Dont get me wrong the EVO 7 is a fine car but if i had 20 odd grand to spend on a 01 perfromance car to be used as a daily driver i wouldn't buy one.

Also performance aside there is no comparison between an 08 GTI and a 01 evo.like buying an 08 GTi in a few years time there is a more than 50/50 chance that its spend most of its ife being ragged,and we all know how amazing it its that the japs get such power from a 2.0L unit but it doesnt come without a price,the are a seriously high strung engine.

Maybe the runnig cost would be more and the EVO would attract a lot more attention than the mk5 gti, but if I had 30grand spare for a car and I had the choice of either of them, I have to say I would pick the EVO everytime, even if its 7yr older, jap, and even if the engine is "high strung".. And sure the 16,500 euros I would save would run the EVO for a good few yr, plus it wouldn't lose as much value as the GTi??

And as for my door getting kicked in for the keys, I doubt it would happen though I do live in a "high crime area" we don't have that sort of thing happen down my way.. And I am sure a GTI would be as liable to be taken in that way, so it wouldn't be a deciding factor on which I would choose..

QUOTE I'd rather chop my nuts off than buy an Evo !

As for chopping my Nutz off, rather than buying an EVO? I don't know about that as I am sure the EVO would help me keep my Nutz in great condition......

And I know its a VAG site, but I would choose that EVO over that GTi, the money saved would just be a bonus......

 

QUOTE (babyface @ Jan 21 2009, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Maybe the runnig cost would be more and the EVO would attract a lot more attention than the mk5 gti, but if I had 30grand spare for a car and I had the choice of either of them, I have to say I would pick the EVO everytime, even if its 7yr older, jap, and even if the engine is "high strung".. And sure the 16,500 euros I would save would run the EVO for a good few yr, plus it wouldn't lose as much value as the GTi??

And as for my door getting kicked in for the keys, I doubt it would happen though I do live in a "high crime area" we don't have that sort of thing happen down my way.. And I am sure a GTI would be as liable to be taken in that way, so it wouldn't be a deciding factor on which I would choose..

As for chopping my Nutz off, rather than buying an EVO? I don't know about that as I am sure the EVO would help me keep my Nutz in great condition......

And I know its a VAG site, but I would choose that EVO over that GTi, the money saved would just be a bonus......

No maybe about it the running costs would be higher than the GTI much higher,andi f you get a bad one (which lets face it in this country the chances are pretty high) like the one advertised im not saying its a bad one but why would someone lower and evo??????

As for doors getting kicked in the door kickers tend not to kick in doors in their own area,i do admit the GTI has become more diesrable with the arrival of the MK5 GTi but if i owned a GTI and my neighbour had an evo or impreza on the drive i'd rest easy at night.

As for depreciation everything drops and im not convinced the evo esp a white one is more solid than the GTI.i remember an evo mad guy offering me his old evo for my TDI golf when i was sellling as a straight swap with him losing out financially,you can't sell these things you have a very niche market!

 

QUOTE (Shane @ Jan 22 2009, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No maybe about it the running costs would be higher than the GTI much higher,andi f you get a bad one (which lets face it in this country the chances are pretty high) like the one advertised im not saying its a bad one but why would someone lower and evo??????

Right, well put it this way I would prefer to have an EVO 7 and 17grand than a mk5 gti and NO MONEY?? And as for the quality of an "irish" EVO, well considering most of them come in through ireland before going to england, there is actualy some immaculate ones overhere, there is a good load of them parked up down the docks right beside me and most look brand new, grade 4 or 5 mostly I think??

QUOTE As for doors getting kicked in the door kickers tend not to kick in doors in their own area,i do admit the GTI has become more diesrable with the arrival of the MK5 GTi but if i owned a GTI and my neighbour had an evo or impreza on the drive i'd rest easy at night.

Not sure on that either, as the boys that kick in doors are usualy looking a fast reliable car that won't stand out, or they have an order for one thats to be striped, so I reckon both would be as prone to theft??

QUOTE As for depreciation everything drops and im not convinced the evo esp a white one is more solid than the GTI.i remember an evo mad guy offering me his old evo for my TDI golf when i was sellling as a straight swap with him losing out financially,you can't sell these things you have a very niche market!

The gti is white too? and I actualy like the EVO in white over all the other colours, can't say the same bout the mk5? And as for depreciation, that EVO would fetch around 15 grand after a yr or 2, the golf would be worth around the same, maybe a little more.. So the golf would lose over 50% of its value and the EVO would lose a fraction, so you would lose 15grand on the golf after a couple of year (thats 7grand a yr) while the EVO would only cost a couple of grand?? Plus it would cost around halve of what the gti is costing in the first place?

 

QUOTE (babyface @ Jan 22 2009, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Right, well put it this way I would prefer to have an EVO 7 and 17grand than a mk5 gti and NO MONEY?? And as for the quality of an "irish" EVO, well considering most of them come in through ireland before going to england, there is actualy some immaculate ones overhere, there is a good load of them parked up down the docks right beside me and most look brand new, grade 4 or 5 mostly I think??

Not sure on that either, as the boys that kick in doors are usualy looking a fast reliable car that won't stand out, or they have an order for one thats to be striped, so I reckon both would be as prone to theft??

The gti is white too? and I actualy like the EVO in white over all the other colours, can't say the same bout the mk5? And as for depreciation, that EVO would fetch around 15 grand after a yr or 2, the golf would be worth around the same, maybe a little more.. So the golf would lose over 50% of its value and the EVO would lose a fraction, so you would lose 15grand on the golf after a couple of year (thats 7grand a yr) while the EVO would only cost a couple of grand?? Plus it would cost around halve of what the gti is costing in the first place?

Gary your preference for an evo is your preference i can't argue with that,i would prefer the MK5 gti over the evo (but then again its apple and pears if im in the market for 2.0 hot hatch im not going to be looking at evo's and if im in the market for a high performance saloon im not going to be looking at GTIs,or EVOs but thats my preference)

The reference to white was that fact that white evo's like most white jap cars have a bad image and belieive or not these simple thnigs do matter when selling on,where as white seems to be one of the most popular colours for the GTI.

High performance car stripped to order or high performance car to do a job either way the evo is vanishing of the drive way first time everytime.

What cars go for and what cars actually fetch are two different tihngs,there is also the matter of ease of sale.i found 2 EVo 9's on cazone both are over 20k less than the from new price less than 2 years after being registered.

Some evos destined for the uk might come in through ireland,and some of the ones that end up here might even be good examples,but its a rare thing in this country to see an evo owner with a bit of mechanical sympathy.

You cant expect to post up a link to an EVO on a vag site and expect anything other than this : )

 

QUOTE (Declan @ Jan 21 2009, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'd rather chop my nuts off than buy an Evo !

LOL ...with a rusty blunt axe Dec?

 

Very true, its different strokes for different folks, but with everyone being tight for money and all that, why pay 30 odd grand for a car that will be worth lets say 18grand in a couple of yr, when you can buy a 40-50 grand car for 16 odd grand(granted its a 7yr difference but there is also 130bhp difference??)

And I personaly wouldn't go out and buy an EVO, unless I had the funds to waste, but if I had 30 grand and could have an EVO 7 and keep 15 grand or just buy a mk5 gti for the full whack.. I would choose the EVO.. It would be the more sensible choice to me..

Or you could put it this way, I could have an ANNI GTi and and EVO 7 for the price of that MK5 gti, so I would choose the 2 cars over the mk5 gti in that case too.. Maybe I am being a little hard on the mk5 but it could be any new-ish car, sure I even reckon 30 grand would buy the mk5 from the showroom rather than a second hand one?? I would be happy enough with a mk5 gti too, I just wouldn't pay above the odds for one....

Also there would probably be more mk5 gtis stolen from break ins as oppose to EVO 7's.. theres more gti's about and they are as sought after as the EVO's, and it seems that VOLVO's are whats the main target these days and they ain't what you would call a flashy sports car, they are taken because they are a tank and the boys in blue WON'T even attempt to ram them.. Eitherway as I would have my car insured I wouldn't lie awake at night worry bout it being stolen though anyone coming to take her would want to be quick, like buck shot quick......

 

QUOTE (babyface @ Jan 22 2009, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Very true, its different strokes for different folks, but with everyone being tight for money and all that, why pay 30 odd grand for a car that will be worth lets say 18grand in a couple of yr, when you can buy a 40-50 grand car for 16 odd grand(granted its a 7yr difference but there is also 130bhp difference??)

And I personaly wouldn't go out and buy an EVO, unless I had the funds to waste, but if I had 30 grand and could have an EVO 7 and keep 15 grand or just buy a mk5 gti for the full whack.. I would choose the EVO.. It would be the more sensible choice to me..

Or you could put it this way, I could have an ANNI GTi and and EVO 7 for the price of that MK5 gti, so I would choose the 2 cars over the mk5 gti in that case too.. Maybe I am being a little hard on the mk5 but it could be any new-ish car, sure I even reckon 30 grand would buy the mk5 from the showroom rather than a second hand one?? I would be happy enough with a mk5 gti too, I just wouldn't pay above the odds for one....

Also there would probably be more mk5 gtis stolen from break ins as oppose to EVO 7's.. theres more gti's about and they are as sought after as the EVO's, and it seems that VOLVO's are whats the main target these days and they ain't what you would call a flashy sports car, they are taken because they are a tank and the boys in blue WON'T even attempt to ram them.. Eitherway as I would have my car insured I wouldn't lie awake at night worry bout it being stolen though anyone coming to take her would want to be quick, like buck shot quick......

gary you are clutching at straws...

With people tight for money you would be made to buy a potential money pit,you need to administer serious TLC to an evo every 4 or 5 k (as a daily driver in a cash strapped life that doesn't compute) plus the chances of buying a bad one are inordinately high,do you know evo engines have been known to last as little as 5000 miles?? as a daily driver for a cash strapped person it would be financial suicide.

And it would be a 60 oddk car that is noe worth 16,he would probably take your hand off for 15 though and if you kept it for 2 years you would be lucky to get 8 for it esp after the mileage starts to creep up.which is another point on re sale value how many evo's are there around with 100k plus miles that havent had serious work done to them? while the 2.0TFSI is a relatively new engine there are already examples with pretty honest mileage and im sure with proper servicing it will prove to be as reliable as the old 1.8T.

Suggesting the anni as a cash saving alternative is the most sensible thing you have said,but seeing as how this thread is about the MK5 GTI if you drove a mk4 GTI and mk5 GIT back to back you would realise there is no comparison in the handling/poise and set up of the car (power aside) no offence to any anni owners.

I dont believe for one second that the Mk5 git is a bigger target than the evo,the VRs maybe as its a 4 dr saloon with decent power as are the proper volvos another fast saloon.

Ive said my piece i cant believe im defending a mk5 gti against an EVO on vagdrivers seesh!

Shane.

 

QUOTE (Shane @ Jan 22 2009, 01:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>gary you are clutching at straws...

With people tight for money you would be made to buy a potential money pit,you need to administer serious TLC to an evo every 4 or 5 k (as a daily driver in a cash strapped life that doesn't compute) plus the chances of buying a bad one are inordinately high,do you know evo engines have been known to last as little as 5000 miles?? as a daily driver for a cash strapped person it would be financial suicide.

As in comparing it to buying a gti for 32 grand, I think we both know who would lose more money lets say after 2 yrs....

QUOTE And it would be a 60 oddk car that is noe worth 16,he would probably take your hand off for 15 though and if you kept it for 2 years you would be lucky to get 8 for it esp after the mileage starts to creep up.which is another point on re sale value how many evo's are there around with 100k plus miles that havent had serious work done to them? while the 2.0TFSI is a relatively new engine there are already examples with pretty honest mileage and im sure with proper servicing it will prove to be as reliable as the old 1.8T.

EVO 4s would be around the 8 grand mark, I reckon worst case senario that EVO would be worth 12 - 13 grand in a few yrs.. The GTi would still lose halve its value over the same period which would be 15 odd grand.. And as for engine reliability 60k ain't high at all, it probably only due a timing belt at the next service and AFAIK the EVO engine is actualy quite reliable when driven with repect, there have also being examples of VAG cars including the tfsi engines going bad with small mileage...

QUOTE Suggesting the anni as a cash saving alternative is the most sensible thing you have said,but seeing as how this thread is about the MK5 GTI if you drove a mk4 GTI and mk5 GIT back to back you would realise there is no comparison in the handling/poise and set up of the car (power aside) no offence to any anni owners.

The EVO while it may not be a VAG heads first choice, is an excelent car and puts down serious bhp. where as to get a mk4 ANNI, mk5 gti or most VAGs up to anywhere near there baseline BHP would cost you thousands more.. Hence my saying the EVO is better value for the price, which for someone look a fast car for cheap, It would be a sensible option?? As oppose to paying 30 grand for a car with less power that will depreciate a lot more.

QUOTE I dont believe for one second that the Mk5 git is a bigger target than the evo,the VRs maybe as its a 4 dr saloon with decent power as are the proper volvos another fast saloon.

I didn't say its a bigger target, I said there would be more GTi's stolen due to them being more popular and more of them being in the country, also as some of these lets say are for "JOBS" these "lads" don't want a "LOOK AT ME" type of car where as the mk5 can blend in, the EVO will always stick out.. The VRs was a targeted car when it first came out due to its crap security (earlier ones had no imob, AFAIK) But that mean fcuk all whe someones coming in your door for the keys.. And as for stolen cars for some reason there are lots of ALMERA's saloons being stolen for "JOB's" don't know why

QUOTE Ive said my piece i cant believe im defending a mk5 gti against an EVO on vagdrivers seesh!

Shane.

Well I wasn't puttin them up against each other, I was saying I would buy that 7yr old EVO for 16grand over that 08 gti for 32 grand, and I stand by that.. If thats a sin.. forgive me I am a sinner but at least I am honest.. You have to agree a 330bhp 4wd jap is a good car and it would be faster, pokey-er and handle better than the mk5 gti - hands down.. And thats comparing a 7yr old EVO to a brand new GTi.. the newer type EVO 10 would piss all over the 3.2litre r32 and thats a fact.. maybe the Golf is more refined and reliable but I would take the EVO over the golf in that case too....

 

QUOTE EVO 4s would be around the 8 grand mark

You would have to be crazy to give that sort of money for a 4. Evo 5 can be bought for a bit less than 8, and Evo 6's but at that price a 6 would possibly need work.

Couple of friends of mine Run Evo's. Evo 4's and Evo 6's. One Evo 4 is a Daily and does decent mileage, not huge mileage though. None of them give any real Trouble. they need alot more Maintenance that you normal car and parts are expensive, I think a Ball Joint for an Evo 6 is around €150 from Mitsubishi.

On the other hand another friend has an Evo 2 and while driving down the motorway the diff cought fire. The car overheated and now need a New engine.

If you can afford to run an Evo and keep them right they are and amazing car. BUT everyday the golf would be a much better car to own and drive.

 

QUOTE (The Doc @ Jan 22 2009, 02:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You would have to be crazy to give that sort of money for a 4. Evo 5 can be bought for a bit less than 8, and Evo 6's but at that price a 6 would possibly need work.

Couple of friends of mine Run Evo's. Evo 4's and Evo 6's. One Evo 4 is a Daily and does decent mileage, not huge mileage though. None of them give any real Trouble. they need alot more Maintenance that you normal car and parts are expensive, I think a Ball Joint for an Evo 6 is around €150 from Mitsubishi.

On the other hand another friend has an Evo 2 and while driving down the motorway the diff cought fire. The car overheated and now need a New engine.

If you can afford to run an Evo and keep them right they are and amazing car. BUT everyday the golf would be a much better car to own and drive.

An Evo 5 grade 4 or 5 straight off the docks will cost between 9 and 12 grand, i could get you one cheaper but a guaranteed low mileage grade 4 or 5 car will go for lets say 12 grand?? As for parts and reliability, they are quite good considering the put 300bhp plus down.. And are mk5 gti parts cheap??

And I wasn't comparing the mk5 to an EVO, I was stating what I would do if I wanted a fast car, I would buy a good second hand car whether it be JAP or VAG rather than pay top dollar for a mk5 or any make car.. And no matter what anyone thinks the newer dearer car will lose at least a 3rd of it value over 2yrs as appose to a few grand lose on the second hand EVO.. And while I say that it would be the same way if it was a NEW EVO as oppose to a second hand GOLF..

 

It's all crap IMO.

An EVO as a daily driver will break you. I have a friend who has has every evo bar the new one form the 5 up and he is the first to admit they will break you.

A GTI can be run as a daily with standard servicing etc. As regards handling every MKV platform car beats the equivalent MKIV's hands down no questions asked

Any car a year old at 75% of it's list value is going to depreciate quicker. Most cars do most of their depreciation in the first 4-5 weeks so that's a daft argument IMO.

If you want big power and want to keep your neighbours form thinking you've become a pikey start having look at the likes of this

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/M3/COUPE-...91168517/advert

I'm not saying running costs are any better but jesus I'd have it any day over the ricer wagon

 

QUOTE (Declan @ Jan 22 2009, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's all crap IMO.

An EVO as a daily driver will break you. I have a friend who has has every evo bar the new one form the 5 up and he is the first to admit they will break you.

A GTI can be run as a daily with standard servicing etc. As regards handling every MKV platform car beats the equivalent MKIV's hands down no questions asked

Any car a year old at 75% of it's list value is going to depreciate quicker. Most cars do most of their depreciation in the first 4-5 weeks so that's a daft argument IMO.

If you want big power and want to keep your neighbours form thinking you've become a pikey start having look at the likes of this

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/M3/COUPE-...91168517/advert

I'm not saying running costs are any better but jesus I'd have it any day over the ricer wagon

I agree with you Dec..
but as SWMBO keeps reminding me "" all BMW drivers are wankers.. even your brother in his 09 335D Coupe "

this would be her choice

subtle

 

Back on topic that original GTI, great spec that it is, is way overpriced: http://pistonheads.com/sales/843032.htm

Edit: Especially when you could buy, of course not VRT, something like this for €30K: http://pistonheads.com/sales/859046.htm