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Main Vw Dealer Sued Over Putting A W/o Car Back On The Road

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#1 ·
Worrying dealings from a very large VW dealer.

From Indo

QUOTEEMMETT Fagan was only 16 when he died after the car he was driving went off the road, over a ditch and into a field just four miles from his home.

Ten years on, the family of the Leaving Cert student yesterday settled an action for damages against the garage which had sold them a defective car.

Just a few months after the tragic New Year's Day 1997 accident, it transpired that the almost new car, which the Fagan family had bought for IRÂŁ26,450 a year earlier, had been written off in a previous accident before it was repaired and sold on to them.

Emmett's father Eamon Fagan of Ballyheelan, Kilnaleck, Co Cavan, had sued Al Hayes Motors Ltd of Cooleen, Churchill, Ballyshrule, Ballinasloe, Co Galway and Hibernian Insurance, Haddington Road, Dublin.

After two hours of talks yesterday, Counsel for Mr Fagan, Padraig McCartan SC told the High Court the matter had been settled.

He said Mr Fagan had bought the 1995-registered Audi car from Al Hayes Motors on January 23, 1996 for ÂŁ26,450. Mr Fagan, he said, was told it had belonged to somebody else and had been in a small accident sustaining some wing damage.

Counsel said Mr Fagan accepted that, but 13 months later his son took the car out and drove it. The car went up on a ditch and into a field. The school boy died as a result of the injuries sustained.

The family, he said, subsequently discovered that the car had been involved in a serious accident when it was previously owned and Hibernian Insurance had paid out ÂŁ22,000 in respect of the compensation claim on that accident.

Al Hayes Motors, counsel said, had bought the "wreck", repaired it and "put it back on the road".

Mr McCartan said it later transpired that the car was defective: component parts of the chassis were out of joint and the steering mechanism was not completely repaired. "It was a defective car," counsel said.

He said a full defence was delivered by both defendants but liability was later admitted.

Counsel for Al Hayes Motors told the court that the garage had taken over the defence of the case and it accepts it is completely responsible.

Mr Fagan had claimed that it was implied that Al Hayes Motors warranted that the car was roadworthy, in good mechanical order and free from defects. It was claimed the tyres of the car were wearing off unevenly; the timing belt slipped off the engine; the steering components were faulty and the chassis and suspensions were damaged.

'We are devastated. He was our only son. Our lives were

overturned

completely by this'

Emmett's mother Maureen yesterday told the court how her family had been devastated by his death.

Showing a photograph of her dead son to the court, Mrs Fagan said he was a great lad whom everybody loved. Her son was about to do his Leaving Cert, she said and it had been hoped he would join his father in the glazing business.

"We are devastated. He was our only son. Our lives were overturned completely by this. When we found out about the car it aggravated our grief," the mother of four said.

She said the family were angry with both defendants. "Hibernian knew it had paid out on the car but it took us on.," she said.

She told Mr Justice Butler that the garage and the insurance company should apologise.

At that stage Counsel for Al Hayes Motors said it regretted what had happened, saying "It is a human tragedy."

He explained that liability had been admitted, that the garage had taken over the defence of the action and it clearly regretted the sorrow caused.
 
#3 ·
QUOTE(Red Diesel @ Apr 22 2007, 08:37 PM) [snapback]61601[/snapback]
If the car war really in such a bad state would anyone have bought it?
As I see it a 16 year old should NOT be driving on our roads, end of story.

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i dont understand not the bit above but i tought the father was driving?
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#4 ·
QUOTE(Red Diesel @ Apr 22 2007, 08:37 PM) [snapback]61601[/snapback]
If the car war really in such a bad state would anyone have bought it?
As I see it a 16 year old should NOT be driving on our roads, end of story.


one of the reasons most people(who have no knowledge of cars) buy of main dealers/big garages is for confidence in that the car they are buying is what they are being told it is(mileage, service history etc) because they know no better. Why else pay premiums when you can buy of the buy and sell for allot less?

Insurance co originally paid out ÂŁ22k which sounds like allot of damage and the dealer told the buyer that the car was in a "small accident sustaining some wing damage". Its not as if he wasn't aware of the extent of the damage.
 
#5 ·
"EMMETT Fagan was only 16 when he died after the car he was driving went off the road, over a ditch and into a field just four miles from his home."

The first line of the article (above) states that the 16 year old was driving the car. How any court in the country could pay out compensation in this case is beyond me, he should not have been driving the car.

"Insurance co originally paid out ÂŁ22k which sounds like allot of damage and the dealer told the buyer that the car was in a "small accident sustaining some wing damage". Its not as if he wasn't aware of the extent of the damage."

The ÂŁ22K in this case was to replace the damage car, not to repair the damage.
 
#8 ·
Hardly the point whether he was driving or not, fact still remains the dealer did something that goes against the very reason the general public buy from dealers in the first place. They didnt sue the garage for the loss of their son, they sued for the defective car. end of story.

You shouldnt have to worry that there is something wrong with your car when you buy from a dealer. That dealers ability to sell cars should be taken away from him, who knows how many times he's done that that has yet to be discovered by the buyers!
 
#10 ·
he's my local VAG dealer and its a farce... cars are traded in every day and they just walk around them , and give a price , and the servicing then is minimal. Ask anyone from this area.... he can't be beaten on new car prices , but the horror stories of what goes on in the workshop are the stuff of legend...
 
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QUOTE(Oisin @ Apr 23 2007, 03:07 PM) [snapback]61733[/snapback]
@PGTi, hey lad, agree with the garage should lose theyre ability to sell, but why didnt he die because of a defective car?


I don't want to do or say anything that might upset his family but I'm led to believe the crash occurred because of the way the car was being driven, i.e. way too fast. I don't know if alcohol was a contributory factor. If I remember correctly the crash occurred in the middle of the night, some time around 4AM after the lad returned from a nightclub.

Either way, he was 16 years old and knew he was not allowed drive.
 
#17 ·
To me it seems like 2 separate things altogether.
The young lad, took the car for a drive after coming back home from a night out (according to PGTI who knows the family) proceeded to crash the car over a ditch unfortunately killing himself in the process.

In the course of the enquiry afterwards it comes to light that the car was in fact previously written off and repaired by the dealer and sold on, and this fact might never have come to light only for the accident the young lad had. The family decide to sue the garage for selling them a previously written off car, which they should never have been sold. Maybe the car wasnt able to withstand the impact it took because of previous damage but that is only speculation and isnt mentioned in the article so cant be assumed.

Some sensationalist journalist (is there any other type) gets hold of the story and adds in the bit about the young lad being killed to liven up the story a bit, as it wouldnt grab as much attention if it wasnt there.