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Louth man jailed for dangerous driving
Tuesday, 2 February 2010 18:37

A 21-year-old old Co Louth man has been sentenced to five years imprisonment after he was convicted of dangerous driving causing the deaths of two people.

Dundalk Circuit Criminal Court was told that Daniel O'Riordan, from Point Road, Bellurgan had 23 previous convictions and came from a very dysfunctional family. He had stolen an Audi car, and was driving it at over twice the speed limit when he collided with a car driven by 64-year-old George Campbell.

Mr Campbell was turning into the driveway of his home on the Dundalk to Carlingford road in the early hours of 25 March 2007. He died instantly. David Keenan, 18, who was a passenger in the Audi, was also killed.

Story from RTÉ News:
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0202/rta.html
 
#2 ·
It certainly makes you wonder
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#4 ·
Another serious issue is, why did it take almost 3 years for sentencing.

He's responsible for the deaths of two people. Undoubted he'll be out in 3 or 4 years back to his old ways with
the added criminal education of prison.

If I heard someone had gotten 5 years for the theft of a car alone, Id find it justifiable.
 
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QUOTE (americanpaddy @ Feb 2 2010, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Louth man jailed for dangerous driving
Tuesday, 2 February 2010 18:37

A 21-year-old old Co Louth man has been sentenced to five years imprisonment after he was convicted of dangerous driving causing the deaths of two people.

Dundalk Circuit Criminal Court was told that Daniel O'Riordan, from Point Road, Bellurgan had 23 previous convictions and came from a very dysfunctional family. He had stolen an Audi car, and was driving it at over twice the speed limit when he collided with a car driven by 64-year-old George Campbell.

Mr Campbell was turning into the driveway of his home on the Dundalk to Carlingford road in the early hours of 25 March 2007. He died instantly. David Keenan, 18, who was a passenger in the Audi, was also killed.

Story from RTÉ News:
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0202/rta.htmljust after readn that link it says that he bought the stolen car? still should of got more than 5 years no matter how disfunctional the family he came from. its not rite you see on the news every week drug dealers getn locked up for 10-12year an this lad kills 2 an gets 5year an he will be out in 2-3 years these boys ar laughing at the judge
 
#11 ·
how is it that 90% of the scum that rob cars and joyride survive these crashes while the innocent get killed..and the thing is that with the accident happening in 2007 there is a chance that he has already done a fair bit of the time handed down to him and not long left before he is back out doing this again..
 
#12 ·
i dont feel too sorry for the passenger in the audi, he had a hand in his own death to a degree, it's jut a pitty that the other person killed was the old man and not the scumbag driving the audi.

i've seen stolen cars hit 3 foot thick walls that are supported from behind with packed clay, and the only thing that happened was the clutch pedal broke his ankle. and the driver was in another stolen car the following week, driving i might ad.
 
#13 ·
ah im sick of whats fear and whats not i got a call to court saYING THAT I HAD NO INCURANCE EVEN THOE I DID got parkin tickets while ur in a shop buying a parking ticket.... know a friend recentley got his car taken away from his yard cause it had no tax WTF it wast even on the road and he didnt have incurance so he never drove the car it was just there parked ahhhhhh im sick of this all laws fearnes and everything ............................... innocent people getting killed scumbags robbing houses steeling burning cars and the gards go after people with no taxed cars parked up in a yard JUST RIDICOULES
 
#15 ·
Lets be honest this isn't justice but him getting 20 years wouldn't be justice either...it wouldn't bring those poor people back, it wouldn't undo the stupid things this scumbag did. It makes me pissed off too that he got off so lightly but realistically putting him away with people exactly like him would be exactly what he'd love, he'd probably end up surrounded by his family and all the while those who pay taxes have to waste money feeding and sheltering this lowlife
 
#19 ·
Seen it before, I was in Tescos when a junkie held it up at knife point. He was caught by two passing plain clothes guys and in court it conspired he had held the place up before and decided to do it because he got away last time, he was also out on remand awaiting sentencing for holding up a bookies along with a history longer than my arm. His wife was a junkie too and they had 2 children that had been taken off them into care. His brief pulled the full heart string job of his client having no chance in life and that he was going to clean up to get his kids back etc etc still didnt stop him threatening two women and a load of customers with a bloody big knife.
The judge didnt listen to any of it and gave him 7 years at least.

Scumbags like the driver of the car will never change and they can always pull the bleeding heart tragic upbringing out when its needed
 
#20 ·
Dont blame O`Riordan, blame the system. He does come from a very dysfunctional family though, but that should not be an excuse. Apparently he was almost acquitted on a technicality, so the judge may have had to take that into account. I havent read the Argus yet to get the full story.
Our legal system will tomorrow sentence a man for the manslaughter of his wife, the same system that found him not guilty of murdering her. Even though he admitted to hitting her repeatedly with a brick on the head. His defence will argue that he was a henpecked husband, the victim of an Alpha Female and that he was fighting back after years of abuse and mistreatment from his deceased wife. Is that defence really any different from O`Riordans dysfunctional family?
 
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QUOTE (Red Diesel @ Feb 3 2010, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Dont blame O`Riordan, blame the system. He does come from a very dysfunctional family though, but that should not be an excuse. Apparently he was almost acquitted on a technicality, so the judge may have had to take that into account. I havent read the Argus yet to get the full story.
Our legal system will tomorrow sentence a man for the manslaughter of his wife, the same system that found him not guilty of murdering her. Even though he admitted to hitting her repeatedly with a brick on the head. His defence will argue that he was a henpecked husband, the victim of an Alpha Female and that he was fighting back after years of abuse and mistreatment from his deceased wife. Is that defence really any different from O`Riordans dysfunctional family?

in my view, yes.
 
#23 ·
Its manslaughter, unless the prosecution can prove he decided one day Im going to kill her and premeditated his actions. I dont agree 100% but for example my cousin was killed when a thug with prievious for gbh/abh hit him when he tried to protect his friend who was getting a pasting. My cousin fell back from the blow and hit his head on the kerb. He never woke up, the guy got done for manslaughter - end of. Thats the law and the way it is.

Unfortunately in the case outlined the scum bags legal team are able to trot the dysfunctional family bad upbringing line yada yada and the bleeding heart liberals in society accept it. The jury should be allowed to know the criminal history of the person in front of them if they are going to play the hard done by card but that is deemed unfair!
 
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QUOTE (mikerd4 @ Feb 3 2010, 11:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Unfortunately in the case outlined the scum bags legal team are able to trot the dysfunctional family bad upbringing line yada yada and the bleeding heart liberals in society accept it. The jury should be allowed to know the criminal history of the person in front of them if they are going to play the hard done by card but that is deemed unfair!

Then the accused would never get a fair trial. Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer
 
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QUOTE (Red Diesel @ Feb 4 2010, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Then the accused would never get a fair trial. Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer

unfortunately, this is the way it has to be,
and previous convictions can be taken into account after a verdict has been made for sentencing purposes but even then, people with 20,30, 60, 100 convictions still get away with very light sentencing as regardless of previous convictions, the judge cant exceed the maximum sentence.

i was involved with a guy who was on the run for 2 years and had been arrsted/charged and bailed by the court and dodging court dates and warrants, and when he finally go to be sentenced, he got 2 years and a hefty fine for a combined 20+ convictions.