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Washers should be aluminium or copper, not steel. If they are, you will get a leak at the banjo bolt, try and tighten it to stop the leak and the banjo bolt will break. You probobly know that, but as you said metal I was concerned. Just letting you know.
How do you find the Apec brake pads, I've had customers not very happy with them, although I don't sell them. Someone in the Midlands was selling these as up-rated pads, but there not.
Enjoy the job.
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How do you find the Apec brake pads, I've had customers not very happy with them, although I don't sell them. Someone in the Midlands was selling these as up-rated pads, but there not.
Enjoy the job.
John
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I have never seen the need for paying for uprated brakes pads . If your driving too fast to stop, no matter how much money you throw at pads, your gonna crash either way, to be honest, ya theres defo better pads than apec, but there definitely not the worst, had a set of (i wont say) on a diesel golf a few years ago, lasted forever but wouldnt stop a chicken chaser not mind a diesel golf!
Thought you may have known, but I thiught that it you were doing the job, and the banjo broke, it's a bloody head wrecker.
I sell lots of up-rated brakes, and customers are impressed. The pads have an improved grip on the disc, between 12 and 25 %, depending on the type specification fitted, and can handle the heat so much better.
Improved disc's will handle the heat and dissapate it better, reduceing the chances of brake fade and warping. The groves clean the pads, thus a new clean pad face every time you hit the pedal. The real advantage of these is you can trash them all day, and no worries about fade. I fitted EBC grooved disc's and Red Stuff pads to Colemans track car, and he was impressed enough. I've seen him out brake an EVO 5 and pass him out, up the inside, of the corner at mondello park. You should have seen the face of the guy in the EVO, when Colemans, not so flash looking golf passing him. Coleman has this on video, and you should see this guy trying to push the steering wheel of the evo to make it go faster.
Avyway Happy Christmas
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I sell lots of up-rated brakes, and customers are impressed. The pads have an improved grip on the disc, between 12 and 25 %, depending on the type specification fitted, and can handle the heat so much better.
Improved disc's will handle the heat and dissapate it better, reduceing the chances of brake fade and warping. The groves clean the pads, thus a new clean pad face every time you hit the pedal. The real advantage of these is you can trash them all day, and no worries about fade. I fitted EBC grooved disc's and Red Stuff pads to Colemans track car, and he was impressed enough. I've seen him out brake an EVO 5 and pass him out, up the inside, of the corner at mondello park. You should have seen the face of the guy in the EVO, when Colemans, not so flash looking golf passing him. Coleman has this on video, and you should see this guy trying to push the steering wheel of the evo to make it go faster.
Avyway Happy Christmas
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so far, mine arent bled properly but i only did it as my own were seized and these ones popped up luckily! Im sure theyre an improvement over the older ones though, to look at the new and the old ones together, youd be shocked by the differences!
QUOTE I have never seen the need for paying for uprated brakes pads . If your driving too fast to stop, no matter how much money you throw at pads, your gonna crash either way
You've obviously never had proper uprated pads then..............what you reckon Geo, a set of Pagid yellow or the like could blow his mind!
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You've obviously never had proper uprated pads then..............what you reckon Geo, a set of Pagid yellow or the like could blow his mind!
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Good thread Oisin, need more like this on here, makes it very easy to follow & helps people save a quid too
by doing a DIY job!
QUOTE (VST @ Jan 12 2006, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You've obviously never had proper uprated pads then..............what you reckon Geo, a set of Pagid yellow or the like could blow his mind!
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Very true VST, the difference between standard & the likes of Pagid is huge! (well worth the money)
"If your driving too fast to stop, no matter how much money you throw at pads, your gonna crash either way, to be honest"
- don't agree with you there Oisin....spend the money on up-rated brakes & YOU WILL surprise alot of people
when you touch the pedal, I know I surprised myself when out on Mondello, when I could out-break cars that were faster than mine & as a result, get past them on the corner
by doing a DIY job!
QUOTE (VST @ Jan 12 2006, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You've obviously never had proper uprated pads then..............what you reckon Geo, a set of Pagid yellow or the like could blow his mind!
Very true VST, the difference between standard & the likes of Pagid is huge! (well worth the money)
"If your driving too fast to stop, no matter how much money you throw at pads, your gonna crash either way, to be honest"
- don't agree with you there Oisin....spend the money on up-rated brakes & YOU WILL surprise alot of people
when you touch the pedal, I know I surprised myself when out on Mondello, when I could out-break cars that were faster than mine & as a result, get past them on the corner
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QUOTE (VST @ Jan 12 2006, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You've obviously never had proper uprated pads then..............what you reckon Geo, a set of Pagid yellow or the like could blow his mind!
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I reckon they could so the best thing to do would be take it one step at a time, first bin the apecs and get some decent pads like ferodo/pagid etc, then move from there to the uprated pad if required
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In fairness I think for a standard Mk2 8v that isn't going to get much abuse that a good quality road pad is all you need. I've got ferodos on mine and the brakes are fine for normal/slightly enthusiastic driving. I'm sure if you took it out on track it would be a different story but that's what the vento and the pagid blues are for
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@Tony it was all in the way those brakes were fitted to your car
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I reckon they could so the best thing to do would be take it one step at a time, first bin the apecs and get some decent pads like ferodo/pagid etc, then move from there to the uprated pad if required
In fairness I think for a standard Mk2 8v that isn't going to get much abuse that a good quality road pad is all you need. I've got ferodos on mine and the brakes are fine for normal/slightly enthusiastic driving. I'm sure if you took it out on track it would be a different story but that's what the vento and the pagid blues are for
@Tony it was all in the way those brakes were fitted to your car
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@ronan, i edited the bit about the copper washers the same day i wrote that thread. but well caught all the same! johnny got there before you!
On a seperate issue, when i was talking about what brake pads to go for, i was implying the pads wouldnt make a massive difference as they would were going on rear brakes. Defo if i was heading into mondello i might think about looking into getting some, (but i dont think my car would get there!!)
On a seperate issue, when i was talking about what brake pads to go for, i was implying the pads wouldnt make a massive difference as they would were going on rear brakes. Defo if i was heading into mondello i might think about looking into getting some, (but i dont think my car would get there!!)
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QUOTE (JMS @ Jan 13 2006, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@ Geo, is there much difference in price between the Pagids and the EBCs?
The pagids are a good bit more expensive afaik.
The pagids are a good bit more expensive afaik.
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