How To... Mk2/mk4 Rear Brake Conversion

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Oisin

Discussion Starter · Dec 25, 2005 (Edited by Moderator)

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johnny99

· #2 · Dec 25, 2005

Washers should be aluminium or copper, not steel. If they are, you will get a leak at the banjo bolt, try and tighten it to stop the leak and the banjo bolt will break. You probobly know that, but as you said metal I was concerned. Just letting you know.

How do you find the Apec brake pads, I've had customers not very happy with them, although I don't sell them. Someone in the Midlands was selling these as up-rated pads, but there not.

Enjoy the job.

John

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Oisin

Discussion Starter · #3 · Dec 25, 2005 (Edited by Moderator)

I have never seen the need for paying for uprated brakes pads . If your driving too fast to stop, no matter how much money you throw at pads, your gonna crash either way, to be honest, ya theres defo better pads than apec, but there definitely not the worst, had a set of (i wont say) on a diesel golf a few years ago, lasted forever but wouldnt stop a chicken chaser not mind a diesel golf!

johnny99

· #4 · Dec 26, 2005

Thought you may have known, but I thiught that it you were doing the job, and the banjo broke, it's a bloody head wrecker.

I sell lots of up-rated brakes, and customers are impressed. The pads have an improved grip on the disc, between 12 and 25 %, depending on the type specification fitted, and can handle the heat so much better.

Improved disc's will handle the heat and dissapate it better, reduceing the chances of brake fade and warping. The groves clean the pads, thus a new clean pad face every time you hit the pedal. The real advantage of these is you can trash them all day, and no worries about fade. I fitted EBC grooved disc's and Red Stuff pads to Colemans track car, and he was impressed enough. I've seen him out brake an EVO 5 and pass him out, up the inside, of the corner at mondello park. You should have seen the face of the guy in the EVO, when Colemans, not so flash looking golf passing him. Coleman has this on video, and you should see this guy trying to push the steering wheel of the evo to make it go faster.

Avyway Happy Christmas

John

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dubeire

· #5 · Dec 26, 2005

Great tread i plan on doing this soon think i have a caliper seized.Do these improve braking or are they just an upgrade on the troublesome mk2 caliper?

Oisin

Discussion Starter · #6 · Dec 26, 2005

so far, mine arent bled properly but i only did it as my own were seized and these ones popped up luckily! Im sure theyre an improvement over the older ones though, to look at the new and the old ones together, youd be shocked by the differences!

Oisin

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jan 12, 2006

bump cant pin this my self so if an admin would be so kind.....

Geo

· #8 · Jan 12, 2006

Thanks Oisin hadn't seen this

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VST

· #9 · Jan 12, 2006

QUOTE I have never seen the need for paying for uprated brakes pads . If your driving too fast to stop, no matter how much money you throw at pads, your gonna crash either way

You've obviously never had proper uprated pads then..............what you reckon Geo, a set of Pagid yellow or the like could blow his mind!

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Tony D

· #10 · Jan 12, 2006

Good thread Oisin, need more like this on here, makes it very easy to follow & helps people save a quid too
by doing a DIY job!

QUOTE (VST @ Jan 12 2006, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You've obviously never had proper uprated pads then..............what you reckon Geo, a set of Pagid yellow or the like could blow his mind!

Very true VST, the difference between standard & the likes of Pagid is huge! (well worth the money)

"If your driving too fast to stop, no matter how much money you throw at pads, your gonna crash either way, to be honest"

- don't agree with you there Oisin....spend the money on up-rated brakes & YOU WILL surprise alot of people
when you touch the pedal, I know I surprised myself when out on Mondello, when I could out-break cars that were faster than mine & as a result, get past them on the corner

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Geo

· #11 · Jan 13, 2006

QUOTE (VST @ Jan 12 2006, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You've obviously never had proper uprated pads then..............what you reckon Geo, a set of Pagid yellow or the like could blow his mind!

I reckon they could so the best thing to do would be take it one step at a time, first bin the apecs and get some decent pads like ferodo/pagid etc, then move from there to the uprated pad if required

In fairness I think for a standard Mk2 8v that isn't going to get much abuse that a good quality road pad is all you need. I've got ferodos on mine and the brakes are fine for normal/slightly enthusiastic driving. I'm sure if you took it out on track it would be a different story but that's what the vento and the pagid blues are for

@Tony it was all in the way those brakes were fitted to your car

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ronan

· #12 · Jan 13, 2006

oisin, the washers i gave you were copper

JMS

· #13 · Jan 13, 2006

@ Geo, is there much difference in price between the Pagids and the EBCs?

Oisin

Discussion Starter · #14 · Jan 13, 2006

@ronan, i edited the bit about the copper washers the same day i wrote that thread. but well caught all the same! johnny got there before you!

On a seperate issue, when i was talking about what brake pads to go for, i was implying the pads wouldnt make a massive difference as they would were going on rear brakes. Defo if i was heading into mondello i might think about looking into getting some, (but i dont think my car would get there!!)

JMS

· #15 · Jan 13, 2006

The pictures paint a thousand words, good pic of the hose to be used. Good job Oisin.

Geo

· #16 · Jan 13, 2006

QUOTE (JMS @ Jan 13 2006, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@ Geo, is there much difference in price between the Pagids and the EBCs?

The pagids are a good bit more expensive afaik.

billy

· #17 · Feb 4, 2009

Just out of interest, what make/model car would have the brake hoses used in this?

neilc

· #18 · Feb 4, 2009

Audi A4

wratch

· #19 · Feb 22, 2009

i have mk4 rear calipper conversion on my mk2 but cant get it to work properly (not done by myslef). Ive changed the BMC for a bigger 16v one, changed the fluid and bled the system and still brakes are so bad??? what should i check next...booster?

daveb

· #20 · Mar 22, 2009

can someone confirm a part number for the MK4 calipers i need to do this on my VR6 Corrado?

And do I need a longer handbrake cable?

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