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Whats the story with driving on english plates.
-Can you insure it?
-i presume you'd get a few warnings about VRTing it before the cops/customs would lift it, or could they do it straight away?
-Could you get away with it for a few months if the cops didnt notice?
-is the VRT based on the value from the 1st day of your ownership or on the day of VRTing it?
 

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QUOTE (WRC @ Jan 7 2006, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Whats the story with driving on english plates.
-Can you insure it?

Yes

QUOTE -i presume you'd get a few warnings about VRTing it before the cops/customs would lift it, or could they do it straight away?

I don't know

QUOTE -Could you get away with it for a few months if the cops didnt notice?

I got away with driving the bmw for about 4 months and went through garda checkpoints and nothing was said.

QUOTE -is the VRT based on the value from the 1st day of your ownership or on the day of VRTing it?

Day of VRTing it I would say but that wouldn't save you much money unless the car was very new.
 

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QUOTE (WRC @ Jan 7 2006, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Whats the story with driving on english plates.
-Can you insure it?
-i presume you'd get a few warnings about VRTing it before the cops/customs would lift it, or could they do it straight away?
-Could you get away with it for a few months if the cops didnt notice?
-is the VRT based on the value from the 1st day of your ownership or on the day of VRTing it?

Yes you can insure it, I did it with Carol Nash and they never asked me for the Irish reg number only when I was renewing my policy 11 months later
, but I had sold the car at that stage any way.

You will get a few warnings I'm sure, although I never did. They will take the car off you if its the same guard who has caught you a few times, i.e some local guard who keeps pulling you, I know of a lad who this happened to, although he was told to vrt it for months by the same Garda station and was taking the piss in fairness


The vrt is based on the car on the day of vrting it
 

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I know a lad who's driving around on english plates for a year (not his daily car) but seems to have gotten away with it...so far.
 

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QUOTE (WRC @ Jan 7 2006, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Whats the story with driving on english plates.
-Can you insure it?
-i presume you'd get a few warnings about VRTing it before the cops/customs would lift it, or could they do it straight away?
-Could you get away with it for a few months if the cops didnt notice?
-is the VRT based on the value from the 1st day of your ownership or on the day of VRTing it?

can depends on how far up north you are. worked with a lad who had an english galaxy here in cork for 9 months no bother but when he went home to dundalk he was hounded by the guards so VRTed it to get them off his back
 

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QUOTE (dubtrend @ Jan 7 2006, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>can depends on how far up north you are. worked with a lad who had an english galaxy here in cork for 9 months no bother but when he went home to dundalk he was hounded by the guards so VRTed it to get them off his back

cheers for the replies lads, reckon i could get away with it for a few months anyway(i drive mostly back roads, and car is always parked at back of house)

Just 2 more questions, when you buy the car how does the UK log book work, do they sign it over to your irish address and when you VRT it does the number of previous UK owners get added to the irish log book?
 

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QUOTE (WRC @ Jan 7 2006, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Whats the story with driving on english plates.
-Can you insure it?

Some companies will insure you some wont. AXA will, don't think FBD will.

The main problem you'll come up against is the whole address thing. The seller is gonna want the car out of their name but it must be a UK address that you give them. If you give a Southern address you'll end up having to duty it...only 90% sure of this though.

Like everything else, there are ways around it. If you buy from a dealer he should be able to work it for, the usual thing they do is put it in a non-existant name & an address which will enable the dealer to pick up the "new owners" documents when they are sent out. He (the dealer) will then post the documents/log book down south to you. At this stage you'll have the car & the log book which you can show as proof that you legally own the car.

The beauty of this is that southern cops can't trace that car to you so speed camera points won't find you, but don't draw attention to yourself cos they'll keep a list of any offences against that reg. no. and if you get stopped at a checkpoint some day then they won't treat you too nicely...to say the least!!

Also, if buying from a dealer & the tax is nearly up, get him to tax it for a year for you. Bargain it into the price or hand him 165 pounds and he'll tax it in the last owners name. When the Gardai see that it's taxed they will possibly just wave you through a checkpoint-it just means you're not drawing attention to yourself.

Be very careful if you're ever driving that car up North though. If the cops come across you and you don't have a northern address they can take the car off you on the spot.

If buying privately it's not usually as straightforward but if you come across the "right guy" I have been told that the seller can send in the change of ownership form to the place in Coleraine giving your real name but stating "no address given" on the form. Not quite sure how you get the new log book though if they don't know where to post it too.

If you're stopped by the local Gardai....well what we do up round these parts is put on our best Northern accent and roll your real name & a prepared Northern address off your tongue. He'll ask for your Northern licence, tell him you don't have it with you. Up North it's not a legal requirement to carry your licence with you. On no circumstances should you pull out the pink boy...your Southern licence
and show it to him, if you do you're in trouble. It's possible to bluff our bobbies though, show your credit card as proof of who you are. I've done it before and it worked. Said I didn't have any ID but offered to show my credit card as proof of who I am, it contains your name but no address so works a treat. I know a few fellas who have even opened up Ulster Bank accounts just to get the Ulster Bank ATM card for this purpose. Ulster Bank is down South as well so no problem opening an account but it's predominantly associated with the North.

Obviously I have just "picked" all of this up in passing
I wouldn't try to deny Bertie his beloved VRT


Hope that may be of some help to you.
 

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Best thing would be if you have relatives in the U.K somewhere, register the car in your name but at their address. The U.K log book will be sent to their home and then they can forward it onto you. That means you can keep English Tax (cheap), get English insurance (cheap) as long as it comes with a years 'green card' (Norwich Union does) and get as much MOT on the car, that way you can avoid alot of money, alot of hassle and a cleaner licence! Works for me so far (11 months) anyway.
 

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When you buy the car in the UK you can complete the DVLA Form and the car is basically deregistered from the old owners name.

I've not had an Irish Registered car for over a year or so now at this stage.
 

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the only prob is that in certain urban areas, like here in dublin, they have road blocks to pick up these cars, they are also only out in the evening and weekend too.
Generally they have aru guys out as part of the roadblock too, which is not a nice person to meet on a cold winters evening!
In reality you have 48 hours to vrt the car, you will get away with lionger as you wont have the uk paperwork for 2-4 weeks, but your meant to go to your local VRO and get a letter stating you hvae tried to reg the car but are awaiting documentation and cannot do so till then.
If the car is in the country customs(i think or maybe revenue) can take it off you. then you get it back once you pay the vrt and impound charge.
It has happened to 2 of my friends.
It is all dependant on the value of the car and if you draw attention to yourself a lot
 

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well i was driving about in my current MK3 when it had northern plates, never had warings or any questions, then one day in town i got stopped by a Guard he questioned me, then told me to get out of car and said he was impounding it, left me standing in the rain 20miles from home! i had to call my dad to collect me! that guard was the bigest prick id ever met, i was rippin......
 

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jeez Dan, that is tough, the same thing nearly happened to me, but in the end they gave me 1 week to reg the car as they couldnt prove i had it in longer than the 2 days.
I was only 10 miles away, but thats the way they are doing things now!
 

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I went through a check point in a beemer on English plates, the Guard had a problem with it being out of tax but didn't care about the reg. I told her i had to wait til i got the cert from the UK to rereg it and she said "Doesn't mean you can drive without tax" , I said, how am i meant to tax it? She eventually got the point.
 
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