The odometer in my my mk2 is stuck, I've picked up a set of clocks with 186,000miles and the engine has 160,000 just wondering do people turn them back or is it a bad idea?
mr.sifter
QUOTE (mr.sifter @ Jul 5 2010, 07:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The odometer in my my mk2 is stuck, I've picked up a set of clocks with 186,000miles and the engine has 160,000 just wondering do people turn them back or is it a bad idea?
On one hand, you're not clocking it. You're actually just correcting the mileage. Which is different to clocking. Clocking, to me, is someone taking genuine miles off an odometer to increase the value / appearance of the car.
I think you should correct it to the amount that was on the stopped clocks. To leave the working odometer as is, you're devauluing your car by 26k miles. It may be handy to document the whole process if any future buyer does notice the different clocks or work done to the area that you will have photographic proof of genuine repair work and you weren't trying to scam anyone.
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On one hand, you're not clocking it. You're actually just correcting the mileage. Which is different to clocking. Clocking, to me, is someone taking genuine miles off an odometer to increase the value / appearance of the car.
I think you should correct it to the amount that was on the stopped clocks. To leave the working odometer as is, you're devauluing your car by 26k miles. It may be handy to document the whole process if any future buyer does notice the different clocks or work done to the area that you will have photographic proof of genuine repair work and you weren't trying to scam anyone.
I think because the milage clock on the mk2 is not electronical whenever u ''correct'' the milage it wont be in a straight line again so who knows about this stuff will notice that the milage was clocked straight away not a good idea when your selling the car and its illegal if the car is going to be for sale in any near future. if dealers get caught with cars that are cloked back they get huge huge penalty's and fines.
surely its not the act of clocking thats ilegal but rather trying to scam or decieve punters.
if he is correcting the mileage and has no intention of decieving anyone, then how can that be ilegal?
if you break a set of clocks and need new ones, do dealers set them to your last known milege before sending you on your way or do they start at zero?
(genuine question)
why not reset the new clocks to your correct mileage and keep the old ones to show that you had to replace them?
and then keep a service record of any work you do to help back up the mileage history.
if he is correcting the mileage and has no intention of decieving anyone, then how can that be ilegal?
if you break a set of clocks and need new ones, do dealers set them to your last known milege before sending you on your way or do they start at zero?
(genuine question)
why not reset the new clocks to your correct mileage and keep the old ones to show that you had to replace them?
and then keep a service record of any work you do to help back up the mileage history.
QUOTE (Alan B. @ Jul 5 2010, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>surely its not the act of clocking thats ilegal but rather trying to scam or decieve punters.
if he is correcting the mileage and has no intention of decieving anyone, then how can that be ilegal?
if you break a set of clocks and need new ones, do dealers set them to your last known milege before sending you on your way or do they start at zero?
(genuine question)
why not reset the new clocks to your correct mileage and keep the old ones to show that you had to replace them?
and then keep a service record of any work you do to help back up the mileage history.
Your right Alan if you dont have the intesnion of selling the car then its perfectly fine. As i mensioned its ilegal ir your selling a car with a clocked milage as its a missleading information and a person who buys he car can take legal action against it. Anyway i I wouldnt clock it as its not going to be in a straight line it would annoy my head by just looking at it.
if he is correcting the mileage and has no intention of decieving anyone, then how can that be ilegal?
if you break a set of clocks and need new ones, do dealers set them to your last known milege before sending you on your way or do they start at zero?
(genuine question)
why not reset the new clocks to your correct mileage and keep the old ones to show that you had to replace them?
and then keep a service record of any work you do to help back up the mileage history.
Your right Alan if you dont have the intesnion of selling the car then its perfectly fine. As i mensioned its ilegal ir your selling a car with a clocked milage as its a missleading information and a person who buys he car can take legal action against it. Anyway i I wouldnt clock it as its not going to be in a straight line it would annoy my head by just looking at it.
Clocks are stuck on 124,000 and it's not the original engine in the car, to be honest it doesn't bother me what it reads aslong as I know what's on it which I do by using the mfa, when people do engine conversions ie: 20v turbos do they correct the mileage?
Set the working clocks to what the MFA says and then give the car a good waxing!
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I'm not sure if people correct the clocks on engine conversions. I would change them as IMO the engine mileage is the most important...
I'm not sure if people correct the clocks on engine conversions. I would change them as IMO the engine mileage is the most important...
QUOTE (ustari @ Jul 7 2010, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Don't most people with transplants leave the clock as is(mileage on the shell) and then note the mileage on the new engine.
that's what I'd like to find out
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that's what I'd like to find out
My mk2 has around 180k on the clock and about 45k on the rebuilt engine, but i wouldn't dream of changing the mileage as that's the original miles on the car. I do have documents verifying the milage on the car when the engine was fitted so the mileage on the engine can always be worked out and proven, i'm sure anyone with a 20v or another conversion would do the same if possible.
So i'd match your new clocks to what the mileage is on the car.
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So i'd match your new clocks to what the mileage is on the car.
Id stick to the car. I bought second hand kph clocks to go in a shell from a 1.3 mk2 which has an engine from a gti in it. So I had to decide whether
1. to leave the clocks as is but wouldnt match car or engine
2. to change to the engine milage (engine rebuilt so another dilemma)
3. to change to the shells milage
I changed the clocks to the shells miles. I dont intend on selling the car so no matter, but for things like nct, it saves trying to explain.
If you do, try document everything you can, and if you sell it on, the buyer should understand if your genuinely honest and upfront.
1. to leave the clocks as is but wouldnt match car or engine
2. to change to the engine milage (engine rebuilt so another dilemma)
3. to change to the shells milage
I changed the clocks to the shells miles. I dont intend on selling the car so no matter, but for things like nct, it saves trying to explain.
If you do, try document everything you can, and if you sell it on, the buyer should understand if your genuinely honest and upfront.
QUOTE (LTdriver @ Jul 5 2010, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think because the milage clock on the mk2 is not electronical whenever u ''correct'' the milage it wont be in a straight line again so who knows about this stuff will notice that the milage was clocked straight away not a good idea when your selling the car and its illegal if the car is going to be for sale in any near future. if dealers get caught with cars that are cloked back they get huge huge penalty's and fines.
Incorrect, as said already, the act of correcting the milage is not iilegal unless you sell the car without mentioning it to the buyer.
How do you think company's can offer/openly advertise a milage correction service if it's iilegal?
Incorrect, as said already, the act of correcting the milage is not iilegal unless you sell the car without mentioning it to the buyer.
How do you think company's can offer/openly advertise a milage correction service if it's iilegal?
QUOTE (J-GTi @ Jul 7 2010, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Incorrect, as said already, the act of correcting the milage is not iilegal unless you sell the car without mentioning it to the buyer.
How do you think company's can offer/openly advertise a milage correction service if it's iilegal?
thats exactly what i was sayin, u can see it a bit more clearly in my second post.
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How do you think company's can offer/openly advertise a milage correction service if it's iilegal?
thats exactly what i was sayin, u can see it a bit more clearly in my second post.
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