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·Looking for a bug, bus or a type 3 for project, must be for small money, anything considered!
no 1303's or 02's though!
no 1303's or 02's though!
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QUOTE (Dirty1 @ Dec 22 2005, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>no 1303's or 02's though!
why the aversion to superbeetles? The looks are a bit of a departure from the classic beetle, but the 1303 has an aesthetic quality all of it's own. Look at these and tell me they're not drop dead gorgeous:
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they do have far superior suspensions to the standard torsion bar front, swing axle rear bugs, better load area, better aerodynamics (in the case of the 1303, not the 1302).
There's an abandoned project Porsche 356 Speedster replica project going for sale over on SVf, not huge money when you consider what's included in the deal...
why the aversion to superbeetles? The looks are a bit of a departure from the classic beetle, but the 1303 has an aesthetic quality all of it's own. Look at these and tell me they're not drop dead gorgeous:
they do have far superior suspensions to the standard torsion bar front, swing axle rear bugs, better load area, better aerodynamics (in the case of the 1303, not the 1302).
There's an abandoned project Porsche 356 Speedster replica project going for sale over on SVf, not huge money when you consider what's included in the deal...
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Its Dirty1 ere, just in work ansd the Parrotts loogged on, hav2 stop doing that!
Yep the second one is sweet, but Im a flat screen torsion bar kinda guy!
Just dont like 03's, unless their proper german lookers, Trev you've probably noticed this from my other posts i.e. irishcustom federation site.
the thing about the 02 is its long and sits high, as does the 03, german lookers look good cos theyre low n phat, but often high dollar cars. Its not that often you see a good 02 -03, mostly they are driven by old duffers or Daddy's little gurl who wanted a purple beetle for her first car! Yep purple on Empi 8's and furry seat covers..........
Anyway Trev, you been on Volks rods lately, seen Reub's VWRX? Not my taste be good work, red interior may be a lil too much!
Got your volksrod together, we'll have to hook up when I get my baja rod rat thingy wotever build, make for interesting looks!
I'm looking for two bugs for Bohall and i to build 'hoodrides'
Yep the second one is sweet, but Im a flat screen torsion bar kinda guy!
Just dont like 03's, unless their proper german lookers, Trev you've probably noticed this from my other posts i.e. irishcustom federation site.
the thing about the 02 is its long and sits high, as does the 03, german lookers look good cos theyre low n phat, but often high dollar cars. Its not that often you see a good 02 -03, mostly they are driven by old duffers or Daddy's little gurl who wanted a purple beetle for her first car! Yep purple on Empi 8's and furry seat covers..........
Anyway Trev, you been on Volks rods lately, seen Reub's VWRX? Not my taste be good work, red interior may be a lil too much!
Got your volksrod together, we'll have to hook up when I get my baja rod rat thingy wotever build, make for interesting looks!
I'm looking for two bugs for Bohall and i to build 'hoodrides'
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the good thing for you is as know one likes em you'll get them cheap!
Well any where else but Ireland as bugs are so over priced here!
the good thing for you is as know one likes em you'll get them cheap!
Well any where else but Ireland as bugs are so over priced here!
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QUOTE (Dirty1 @ Jan 4 2006, 03:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>the good thing for you is as know one likes em you'll get them cheap!
It all depends on what your requirements are. If you want a car that'll go around corners and not just in straight lines, then the superior suspension of the 1302/03 is the way to go. The extra bit of weight up front goes a bit of the way towards offsetting the weight of the engine behind the rear axle.
I do like some of the hoodrides, but like everything else it's becoming a bit mainstream and samey, like a cookie-cutter "look" for your bug. Decrepit looking car, scraping the ground with loads of equally decrepit accessories stuck on. The unprotected metalwork wouldn't last pissing time in Ireland either. All very well if you're cruising the boulevardes of San Francisco...
The "rat look" phenomenon died the day some eejit started selling "rat look" badges to stick on your car...
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It all depends on what your requirements are. If you want a car that'll go around corners and not just in straight lines, then the superior suspension of the 1302/03 is the way to go. The extra bit of weight up front goes a bit of the way towards offsetting the weight of the engine behind the rear axle.
I do like some of the hoodrides, but like everything else it's becoming a bit mainstream and samey, like a cookie-cutter "look" for your bug. Decrepit looking car, scraping the ground with loads of equally decrepit accessories stuck on. The unprotected metalwork wouldn't last pissing time in Ireland either. All very well if you're cruising the boulevardes of San Francisco...
The "rat look" phenomenon died the day some eejit started selling "rat look" badges to stick on your car...
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QUOTE (trevorbrady @ Jan 4 2006, 10:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The "rat look" phenomenon died the day some eejit started selling "rat look" badges to stick on your car...
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Couldn't agree more, the most rediculous thing you could buy for a car.
Couldn't agree more, the most rediculous thing you could buy for a car.
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·I remember reading alot on Volkszone last year about people giving out about the rat look splits that were being dragged out onto the road with barely enuf metal to hold em together.
My love for rats began long before there was the term 'RAT look', I used to love the look and attitude of some guys pride an joy bug or bus, that he was building while using it as his daily driver, it was more about getting the car sorted, ie, lowered, welded, wheels and motor, before applying the final coat of paint to finish the cars. These, my mates an I described as GNARL, low with nice wheels and sorted bodywork with assorted panel colors and bits of primer. I remember back around 97-98 how primered cars became more common at shows, and then the rattle can an masking tape devised 70's racing stripes appeared down the sides of almost everything.
Today everything seems to be over done, flames, rats, splits, cal, iron crosses, gasser reps, pinstriping, even look at www.volksrods.co.uk look at how popular theyve become in jus lil more than a year! The aircooled scene is just booming at the mo! Go to any show and there's so much to luk at!
A good rat, impresses me as much as any custom bug because of the effort and thought that has gone into it, time taken to gather the right accessories, as with a volksrod.
Ha, maybe even though I dont particularly like my baja, or any baja, if I get it sorted over the next few months, maybe I'll be a forerunner to the next new thing! Baja's are so naff and 80's they may make a retro come back, better start looking for all those unfinished wizard projects too!!
My love for rats began long before there was the term 'RAT look', I used to love the look and attitude of some guys pride an joy bug or bus, that he was building while using it as his daily driver, it was more about getting the car sorted, ie, lowered, welded, wheels and motor, before applying the final coat of paint to finish the cars. These, my mates an I described as GNARL, low with nice wheels and sorted bodywork with assorted panel colors and bits of primer. I remember back around 97-98 how primered cars became more common at shows, and then the rattle can an masking tape devised 70's racing stripes appeared down the sides of almost everything.
Today everything seems to be over done, flames, rats, splits, cal, iron crosses, gasser reps, pinstriping, even look at www.volksrods.co.uk look at how popular theyve become in jus lil more than a year! The aircooled scene is just booming at the mo! Go to any show and there's so much to luk at!
A good rat, impresses me as much as any custom bug because of the effort and thought that has gone into it, time taken to gather the right accessories, as with a volksrod.
Ha, maybe even though I dont particularly like my baja, or any baja, if I get it sorted over the next few months, maybe I'll be a forerunner to the next new thing! Baja's are so naff and 80's they may make a retro come back, better start looking for all those unfinished wizard projects too!!
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i came across an unfinished bay during the summer, all the rust was cut out and panels etc replaced, the whole bus was even primed, a recond engine to boot too. but ive done nothing since bringing it home. now there's surface rust starting to come back out through the primer again, must get my finger out on this soon
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ah bollix! I typed out a big long reply and lost it!
the jist was:
What we call "rat look" has been around since way before we were born, let alone into cars. Recently it ahs gained popularity in the aircooled VW world. Like all other fads, it'll pass.
It's veeery easy to do nothing to a car and call it "rat look". Any fool can do it. As that sexy country singer said, "that don't impress me much".
As opposed to rat lookers, part finished projects can often have the mechanical end sorted before the bodywork is finished.
I'd love to see more part-finished projects at shows, to show others what actually goes into a project. You often can't tell once a car is finished the amount of work that has gone into it. A "projects" section at a show would be cool.
the jist was:
What we call "rat look" has been around since way before we were born, let alone into cars. Recently it ahs gained popularity in the aircooled VW world. Like all other fads, it'll pass.
It's veeery easy to do nothing to a car and call it "rat look". Any fool can do it. As that sexy country singer said, "that don't impress me much".
As opposed to rat lookers, part finished projects can often have the mechanical end sorted before the bodywork is finished.
I'd love to see more part-finished projects at shows, to show others what actually goes into a project. You often can't tell once a car is finished the amount of work that has gone into it. A "projects" section at a show would be cool.
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·I know rats have been around for years, I've been into bikes for years and saw rats there but they too were mostly matt black with loadsa shit stuck, as far as rat dubs go, sure theyre getting a bit samey, but its the effort certain guys go to to get the look just so with sourcing the right period parts,accessories etc!
I do worry sometimes how the UKs current love of Rat splits is going to effect the World population of splits and rarer models, but im not anal about it either, take Ricky James' (volksworld contributer and BWA and ScVC) TYP 11 early barndoor, one or the only early, or earliest righthand drive splits in the uk or the world, he describes it as a rat, but to me its more original and unrestored. I raced him at Santa pod in my ole bay panel in 99 when he still had a 1835, now he's got the full flat 6 porker in there and must be runnin 15 - 17 sec passes if hes in the BWA. Is that goin too far, yes, no depends on the day you get me!
As for the show stuff and part finished projects, I havnt been to any SVF gatherings only Terenure, and was a lil disapointed, now dont get me wrong, im not slagging or nuffin, just I was hoping to see more custom stuff and that for me is where vdubs are at, and the club seems quite into the classic / vintage side of things more than the customs. Now i know theres alot of cars in Ireland, and seems to be a few interesting projects on the SVF forum, a few years back there was a silver ghia on juice from limerick, and theres some nice bugs and ghia's in Dublin area, go they all go to the SVF meetings?
Love to see a good aircooled gathering here, is there one?
The golf side of the Vdub thing is bigger than I expected in Ireland, Im just suprised the aircooled scene is not so active. Irish aircooled stuff isnt low enuf either! I now firsthand how hard it is to drive low bugs n buses over ere , but its the look! There is a nice 412 variant, 2 tone i think, blue over light blue, saw it for sale a few times, Trev you must know it, I love it and think it would look so good slammed over nice shiny wheels, period or modern!
There was a split there this year, in grey primer, very nice!
Time for me to shut up and get building, i do miss the sound of a good open piped flat four!
Trev have you any pics of that volksrod? Love to see its progress.
Admin give us an aircooled section please!
I do worry sometimes how the UKs current love of Rat splits is going to effect the World population of splits and rarer models, but im not anal about it either, take Ricky James' (volksworld contributer and BWA and ScVC) TYP 11 early barndoor, one or the only early, or earliest righthand drive splits in the uk or the world, he describes it as a rat, but to me its more original and unrestored. I raced him at Santa pod in my ole bay panel in 99 when he still had a 1835, now he's got the full flat 6 porker in there and must be runnin 15 - 17 sec passes if hes in the BWA. Is that goin too far, yes, no depends on the day you get me!
As for the show stuff and part finished projects, I havnt been to any SVF gatherings only Terenure, and was a lil disapointed, now dont get me wrong, im not slagging or nuffin, just I was hoping to see more custom stuff and that for me is where vdubs are at, and the club seems quite into the classic / vintage side of things more than the customs. Now i know theres alot of cars in Ireland, and seems to be a few interesting projects on the SVF forum, a few years back there was a silver ghia on juice from limerick, and theres some nice bugs and ghia's in Dublin area, go they all go to the SVF meetings?
Love to see a good aircooled gathering here, is there one?
The golf side of the Vdub thing is bigger than I expected in Ireland, Im just suprised the aircooled scene is not so active. Irish aircooled stuff isnt low enuf either! I now firsthand how hard it is to drive low bugs n buses over ere , but its the look! There is a nice 412 variant, 2 tone i think, blue over light blue, saw it for sale a few times, Trev you must know it, I love it and think it would look so good slammed over nice shiny wheels, period or modern!
There was a split there this year, in grey primer, very nice!
Time for me to shut up and get building, i do miss the sound of a good open piped flat four!
Trev have you any pics of that volksrod? Love to see its progress.
Admin give us an aircooled section please!
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you're right, and it's a fair point, there isn't much in the lines of customised air cooled vws in this country. I suppose with the value of restored cars being relatively high, not many people are into building custom vws. However, there are a few of us who are more into cutting them up than mollycoddling them.
My Subaru project has now got a '54 oval shell that's going over the 1303 chassis. The struts and IRS are being kept for the obvious handling advantages, and the fact that they've already been built up with Porsche 944 brakes and suspension components. The engine and gearbox have been shifted forward to ensure that nothing unusual is seen from outside. It'll be a sleeper when it's finished, but as I mentioned above, it'll probably be seen first without finished paint.
I have a friend who's building a desert going baja. He started with an abandoned baja project based on the one-year-only '67 model bug. He's fitting split bus reduction boxes to the back end for the lift and reduction in gearing and raising the front suspension to match. Inside is all stripped out with dual batteries, 100litre fuel tank where the back seat should be, buckets and harnesses. Next on the list is the roll cage.
The plan for my van is to do a diesel conversion. Better fuel economy, pulling power, good heating etc are the goals. The body and interior are staying bone stock though, I went to a lot of trouble to locate all the original fittings and accessories.
That 412 will hardly be pimped, even though it'd make a good base for a custom project. The primered split van belongs to the same bloke, it's a sweet bus, it came in from California as it is. The silver ghia with hydros was also bought in as it is.
My volksrod project was fucked before it began, I only spent a weekend messing while cutting up a scrap bug that was so rotten I litterally kicked the channels out of it. When I've finished the subaru bug I might get into a low-buck volksrod pickup cos I like the look. I don't reckon I could ever insure something like that to drive over here so pumping money into it would be a waste. We'll see what happens...
My Subaru project has now got a '54 oval shell that's going over the 1303 chassis. The struts and IRS are being kept for the obvious handling advantages, and the fact that they've already been built up with Porsche 944 brakes and suspension components. The engine and gearbox have been shifted forward to ensure that nothing unusual is seen from outside. It'll be a sleeper when it's finished, but as I mentioned above, it'll probably be seen first without finished paint.
I have a friend who's building a desert going baja. He started with an abandoned baja project based on the one-year-only '67 model bug. He's fitting split bus reduction boxes to the back end for the lift and reduction in gearing and raising the front suspension to match. Inside is all stripped out with dual batteries, 100litre fuel tank where the back seat should be, buckets and harnesses. Next on the list is the roll cage.
The plan for my van is to do a diesel conversion. Better fuel economy, pulling power, good heating etc are the goals. The body and interior are staying bone stock though, I went to a lot of trouble to locate all the original fittings and accessories.
That 412 will hardly be pimped, even though it'd make a good base for a custom project. The primered split van belongs to the same bloke, it's a sweet bus, it came in from California as it is. The silver ghia with hydros was also bought in as it is.
My volksrod project was fucked before it began, I only spent a weekend messing while cutting up a scrap bug that was so rotten I litterally kicked the channels out of it. When I've finished the subaru bug I might get into a low-buck volksrod pickup cos I like the look. I don't reckon I could ever insure something like that to drive over here so pumping money into it would be a waste. We'll see what happens...
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at the risk of taking this thread off on a tangent, check this video out. It's the silver 1303 in the pictures above.
Let's see ya do this in yer hoodride
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http://www.zen27248.zen.co.uk/kreiskuke2.wmv
Let's see ya do this in yer hoodride
http://www.zen27248.zen.co.uk/kreiskuke2.wmv
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QUOTE (rmn @ Jan 9 2006, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Eh what engine is in that Trevor?
That is some serious drift
2.4l VW type4 motor. Derived from the engine that pushed the bay window vans around, also the 4 cylinder Porsche 914s...
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his website is here: http://www.vw1303rs.de , lots more pics. I saw this car at VolksWorld a couple of years ago. You could eat yer dinner off it, absolutely gorgeous...
That is some serious drift
2.4l VW type4 motor. Derived from the engine that pushed the bay window vans around, also the 4 cylinder Porsche 914s...
his website is here: http://www.vw1303rs.de , lots more pics. I saw this car at VolksWorld a couple of years ago. You could eat yer dinner off it, absolutely gorgeous...
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·Carbon porker fan housing Mmmm!
Is that the bug that was featured early last year some time, I remember reading that the owner turned up at some Drift event at Hockinheim and went home with first prize, looks the same anyway, dont have me mags to hand to check! Since I opened a shop last year and workin with Slick mag Ive had to attend some of the fully riced up Drift days, shows and Drag events, Ive been around quick bugs, and Ive mates from UNI runnin big motors, how id love to see a bug doin the do at Drift IRL or a 14 or 15 sec bus from the UK ('Buses With Attitude') come over to drag at Quickshift pissin on Integras
Im always tellin guys about 10, 11, 12 second bugs and they dont believe me, yet there are so many now in the UK, oh to be rich, win the lotto or have more time!
Over here, any quick aircooled VW is a sleeper, custom or not, that 03 Trev, we would pick up on the bits an pieces as it rolled by, but to the average Oirish (wannabe UK chav) yoof, it's still an ugly ole beetle thingy!! HAHa
My mate,Fonz, has a show Ghia, he's had Keith Seume build him a 2.3. should be going in for this season, only for the fact he's now an Alias monkey for OPEL and isnt livin in the UK, i'd have him over. have to get Bohall to show me how to post pics,and I'll get some up for ye!
Trev, talk to the guys on the Irishcustoms site, the Street rod association have sorted insurance on Rods, for me, the baja's gettin chopped about, strip everything off, make it as road legal as I possibly cant! and run it as a standard bug on the insurance, fook it, I'm gonna get pulled no matter by the fiveO, lights, indos, speedo and seatbelts, wot more do they want! its over 30, NCT exempt!
Is that the bug that was featured early last year some time, I remember reading that the owner turned up at some Drift event at Hockinheim and went home with first prize, looks the same anyway, dont have me mags to hand to check! Since I opened a shop last year and workin with Slick mag Ive had to attend some of the fully riced up Drift days, shows and Drag events, Ive been around quick bugs, and Ive mates from UNI runnin big motors, how id love to see a bug doin the do at Drift IRL or a 14 or 15 sec bus from the UK ('Buses With Attitude') come over to drag at Quickshift pissin on Integras
Im always tellin guys about 10, 11, 12 second bugs and they dont believe me, yet there are so many now in the UK, oh to be rich, win the lotto or have more time!
Over here, any quick aircooled VW is a sleeper, custom or not, that 03 Trev, we would pick up on the bits an pieces as it rolled by, but to the average Oirish (wannabe UK chav) yoof, it's still an ugly ole beetle thingy!! HAHa
My mate,Fonz, has a show Ghia, he's had Keith Seume build him a 2.3. should be going in for this season, only for the fact he's now an Alias monkey for OPEL and isnt livin in the UK, i'd have him over. have to get Bohall to show me how to post pics,and I'll get some up for ye!
Trev, talk to the guys on the Irishcustoms site, the Street rod association have sorted insurance on Rods, for me, the baja's gettin chopped about, strip everything off, make it as road legal as I possibly cant! and run it as a standard bug on the insurance, fook it, I'm gonna get pulled no matter by the fiveO, lights, indos, speedo and seatbelts, wot more do they want! its over 30, NCT exempt!
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