Thanks for all the support lads, only getting around to replying now, up the walls with various other things! lots of other projects on the go such as 84 mk1 jetta, soon to be acquired 86 Audi 80TD and a sniff of a 90 jetta TD, its pretty much stripped down now so I'll truly get to see how bad the rust is, I'll put up a photo soon as I can, floor pans appear sound but rust in the A pillars is nasty, still after a couple of years welding who knows! and if not patch it up slam it and hoodride it, now its 30 mr NCT can't get his mitts on it!