QUOTE(oilburner2 @ Jul 25 2007, 10:03 PM) [snapback]75205[/snapback]
Hello all
I have spoke to a couple of guys that own 1.4 Golfs, and they all seem to have the same problems with there cars, the pistons have worn down and a funny sound coming from the engine. They also seem to be very smoky.
Is this a common problem?
Oilburner2


think they call it piston slap and its very common in them alright..

 

QUOTE(Danny @ Jul 25 2007, 10:11 PM) [snapback]75207[/snapback]
think they call it piston slap and its very common in them alright..

Hi Danny
Is it expensive to fix?
Oilburner2

 

happened to a friend of mine on a 99 golf had to sell it....we thought it was the head gasket a first cause of the smoke and oilin the expantion bottle low power etc....till one of my mechanic mates looked at it!!!!!

 

QUOTE(razor @ Jul 25 2007, 11:17 PM) [snapback]75218[/snapback]
happened to a friend of mine on a 99 golf had to sell it....we thought it was the head gasket a first cause of the smoke and oilin the expantion bottle low power etc....till one of my mechanic mates looked at it!!!!!

Ah Razor
wass up? You still driving the Oct?
Did you get the bumper fixed?
If you see Joe tell him all is well and when there is an empty road (not often) I still have a smile on my face.
Just in case others are reading this he chipped my car nothing else you filthy lot.
Oilburner2

 

QUOTE(oilburner2 @ Jul 25 2007, 10:03 PM) [snapback]75205[/snapback]
Hello all
I have spoke to a couple of guys that own 1.4 Golfs, and they all seem to have the same problems with there cars, the pistons have worn down and a funny sound coming from the engine. They also seem to be very smoky.
Is this a common problem?
Oilburner2


I have a mk4 with a similar problem.

Quick fix : Lucas oil additive (or thicker oil) - Stops the problem but if you leave the car for a day or two without driving it starts again untill you give the car a good run to get the oil round the engine.

Permanent fix :

new piston rings and probaly rebore depending on close inspection of block. not cheap!

I have a similar problem - oil in the emmissions - pissing out the exhaust, Hoping its the valve stem seals!

Anyone with more experience of this problem, let me know what you think?? valve seals or piston rings?

Cheers

 

QUOTE(oilburner2 @ Jul 25 2007, 11:29 PM) [snapback]75220[/snapback]
Ah Razor
wass up? You still driving the Oct?
Did you get the bumper fixed?
If you see Joe tell him all is well and when there is an empty road (not often) I still have a smile on my face.
Just in case others are reading this he chipped my car nothing else you filthy lot.
Oilburner2


Yeap still am and no still waiting on the Mibi to pay out the Feckers...........im getting ichy feet with the RS cause its beeb damaged so long but the only thing is(im about to get abuse for this)im thinking of getting a getting a Subaru Leagacy B4, but i really dont wanna leave the Vag Fold!!!!!!
Ill see joe tomorrow ill let him know...if its still going like the day i saw it in staffan id sayur a very happy man!!!!!!!!

 

My sister's 1999 1.4 is pretty much on it's last legs. It's done 120,000, sounds like a diesel and it's burning gallons of oil

Does anyone know anything about this silent recall they had this

QUOTE I really don't mean to be a doom monger but my Golf 1.4 needed a new engine after 8000 miles! It had always sounded pretty rough but it started sounding more and more like a diesel, especially when cold. It was most noticeable under load first thing in the morning when it had a pronounced 'knock'.

When I took the car to my dealer, I had barely finished describing the problem when the foreman said that it will need a new engine. As you can imagine I was horrified. Apparently there is/was an issue with certain 1.4 16v engine losing a teflon coating on the pistons which causes the pistons to 'slap' resulting in the noise I was hearing - at least this is what I was told. VW was aware of the problem and was replacing engines as soon as somebody reported the issue rather than recalling cars which would be hugely embarrassing for them.

Apparently my 2000 model car was one of the last to be affected by the bad batch of pistons so your 1999 car could well be suffering the same problem.

and

QUOTEFirstly, a degree of piston slap is normal for the 1.4/1.6 16v engines when cold. This is because the forged pistons expand at a different rate to the alloy block and therefore have to be slightly undersized so as to not seize the engine when hot. Hence when cold the piston strikes the side of the cylinder sideways before travelling downwards creating the hollow knocking sound which is referred to as Piston Slap. This noise should disappear quickly as the engine warms.

VW had a silent recall on early MK4 Golf 1.4's because teflon coatings on the pistons (which are supposed to minimise the effect of piston slap when cold) were wearing away prematurly causing a worsening of the piston slap. Obviously, engine replacements are not particularly good press and the problem appeared to have been kept very hush hush. I had the engine in my 2000 MK4 1.4 replaced because of this and it was apparently a very common fault.

 

They a lump of crap of an engine. They all make that horrible tappet noise after a few yrs.

the tennsioners went in my 1.4 at 60k. Had full vw history and the timing belt was done about 10k before that costing €600. Then about a mth later tensioners went again this time taking the belt with it, engine shagged. It was a fault with the engine so warranty didnt cover it. VW garage said that by right they shouldnt have reparied the engine the first time cause it was not a warranty issue.

And to think that they have added a turbo and supercharger to this engine. Wouldnt go near that GT. There is going to be huge problems in years to come

 

The 1.4 engine is handy enough to service the bottom end - at least you know what your getting and its miles cheaper than replacing the bottom end or engine that you know jack about and could be worse than the engine that you started with.

"The 1.4s one of the more simpler mk4 engines to work on but changing a piston ring would be meduim-hard work. A basic explanation of work envolved is the head has to come off so timing will need to be reset, then the piston has to come out and rings changed with a piston ring compressor, new gaskets and head bolts fitted then put together with oil and water and belt retentioned and set. Have a look at a haynes manual for some more detail but if you were thinking of getting a new engine this must be a cheaper alternative if thats what is wrong."
Quoted from - http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/thread/614762.aspx

"If your mechanic did a pressure test on the cylinders and the 3rd was off its probably bad as could be a worn piston ring or piston itself. If thats what it is you could source the parts yourself like the rings, head bolts gaskets and tools and a haynes manual you could probably sort it out for under £100."
Quoted from - http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/thread/614762.aspx

So changing the bottom end or engine would be a last resort and best choice of action with a totaly knackered engine with high mileage, but if your engine is a low mileage - non abused engine - it would be cheaper and better to put work into it and have a engine that you know is good. IMO

 

Wow thanks
That's it in a nut shell.
Off to my mates with the info.
Oilburner2